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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Correct. Native Americans were immigrants that colonized North America l-o-n-g before the white ever man got here. They had violent tribal wars amongst themselves over hunting lands, etc., slaughtering and enslaving each other, at will. There is no atrocity white man has committed in North America that Native Americans didn't commit first, as early as 5000 BCE.
Not due to J6, no, at least unless Trump can be tied to Rhodes/Proud Boys in which case absolutely. But there's nothing that really ties him to that. It would be the phone calls to state election officials telling them to seal the election that would disqualify him, e.g. the case in Georgia and not J6. And for that you need a conviction, not just that he's been charged.
With Colorado and Maine fighting to kick Trump off the Ballot and more states to come. Do you believe that due to Jan 6th, Trump is banned from running according to the 14th Amendment?
He sure as hell should be banned for that reason. This is the behavior dictators in countries Republicans are so terrified of engage in.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Words notably absent:
Convicted ( and it's forms)
Charged ( and it's forms)
Firearm ( and it's forms)
Guilt ( and it's forms)
Supreme Court ( or any )
Evidence
Proof
Running ( as in for election) [says 'no person shall ... hold office]
So my response to the spirit of the OP:
Clearly he 'engaged in insurrection or rebellion against' COTUS by attempting ( you don't have to be successful) to divert it and by disrupting the EC count ( the constitutional process) , and therefore he is thereby Disqualified from Holding Office. ( unless Congress Acts - but peace in the middle east is more likely) Very simple
If anyone votes for him and he can't serve then they dilute the GOP vote and guarantee a win for Joe. Careful what you ask for.
Friendly reminder of the words at play: Words notably absent:
Convicted ( and it's forms)
Charged ( and it's forms)
Firearm ( and it's forms)
Guilt ( and it's forms)
Supreme Court ( or any )
Evidence
Proof
Running ( as in for election) [says 'no person shall ... hold office]
So my response to the spirit of the OP:
Clearly he 'engaged in insurrection or rebellion against' COTUS by attempting ( you don't have to be successful) to divert it and by disrupting the EC count ( the constitutional process) , and therefore he is thereby Disqualified from Holding Office. ( unless Congress Acts - but peace in the middle east is more likely) Very simple
If anyone votes for him and he can't serve then they dilute the GOP vote and guarantee a win for Joe. Careful what you ask for.
Good attempt, now read the 5th section of the 14th Amendment, then read 18 U.S. Code § 2383, then read the first section of the 14th Amendment and the 5th Amendment.
Spoiler alert, it completely shreds your argument.
It's just amazing to me how many Americans are fine with unelected judges and Attorney Generals just make up reasons to kick presidential candidates off the ballot, based on their own personal opinions.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by ManApplet
Friendly reminder of the words at play: Words notably absent:
Convicted ( and it's forms)
Charged ( and it's forms)
Firearm ( and it's forms)
Guilt ( and it's forms)
Supreme Court ( or any )
Evidence
Proof
Running ( as in for election) [says 'no person shall ... hold office]
So my response to the spirit of the OP:
Clearly he 'engaged in insurrection or rebellion against' COTUS by attempting ( you don't have to be successful) to divert it and by disrupting the EC count ( the constitutional process) , and therefore he is thereby Disqualified from Holding Office. ( unless Congress Acts - but peace in the middle east is more likely) Very simple
If anyone votes for him and he can't serve then they dilute the GOP vote and guarantee a win for Joe. Careful what you ask for.
No, it wouldn't since Joe would be able to be booted off ballots too, as would many Democrat politicians.
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat
Good attempt, now read the 5th section of the 14th Amendment, then read 18 U.S. Code § 2383, then read the first section of the 14th Amendment and the 5th Amendment.
Spoiler alert, it completely shreds your argument.
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