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Old 03-04-2024, 09:38 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Um.......everyone has to follow it. The insurrection clause IS in the Constitution, so it was not unconstitutional, since they thought Trump was disqualified. The USSC made this argument: "Why should a single state have the ability to make this determination not only for their own citizens but for the rest of the nation?”

Seems weak, but the ruling stands. They should consider removing the clause from the Constitution, or at least clarify what it means and why it didn't apply in this case, but they did not offer a clarification.

Either way, I think everyone knew the CO ruling was not going to survive.
So you are saying it doesn’t speak to the Dem’s corruption. It just speaks to their lack of intelligence?

Maybe, but personally I think it speaks to a combination of both.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:44 AM
 
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Every Colorado resident and every Dim/left-winger/liberal on here should be hanging their head in utter shame for trying to subvert the election of a President.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:46 AM
 
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Now the states can stop this nonsense.

The far left will have to move on to something else to sabotage elections, they have plenty of other tricks up their sleeve.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:48 AM
 
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And that’s how it’s done.

The scary thing is Democrats aren’t even keeping it a secret that they’re trying to steal an election anymore. They’re still gaslighting, but everything is out in the open.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So, the ruling was not about Trump being an insurrectionist or not, but rather about the Congress alone being the enforcer of the insurrection clause when it comes to Federal offices. States can only enforce it at State level.

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Nothing in the Constitution delegates to the States any power to enforce Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates.

We conclude that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office. But States have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal of- fices, especially the Presidency.

And after ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, States used this authority to disqualify state officers in accordance with state statutes. Such power over governance, however, does not extend to federal officeholders and candidates.

States lack even the lesser powers to issue writs of mandamus against federal officials or to grant habeas cor- pus relief to persons in federal custody.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...3-719_19m2.pdf
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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It's the job of Congress, not the States, to determine eligibility for federal offices. Or something. This is just breaking.
Seem that the democrats to undo democracy has failed. More power to the people.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I agree with you.

But I take serious exception to the amount of left leaning posters here who think that SCOTUS has always and without question supported anything related to Trump.

That's just not true and shows how insanely clouded their views are when it comes to anything Trump touches.
To be honest, nobody trusts the Supreme Court justices anymore. So even though I think, he should have been found guilty by a judge n jury first, we know they are on his side. True or not, that’s the popular opinion.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:55 AM
 
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So, the ruling was not about Trump being an insurrectionist or not, but rather about the Congress alone being the enforcer of the insurrection clause when it comes to Federal offices. States can only enforce it at State level.
Of course! This was just another off the wall effort by a kangaroo court.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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So, the ruling was not about Trump being an insurrectionist or not, but rather about the Congress alone being the enforcer of the insurrection clause when it comes to Federal offices. States can only enforce it at State level.
I don’t think you are explaining anything we don’t already know. The fact that a state is illegally attempting to interfere with a federal election is what people are upset about.
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Old 03-04-2024, 09:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So, the ruling was not about Trump being an insurrectionist or not, but rather about the Congress alone being the enforcer of the insurrection clause when it comes to Federal offices. States can only enforce it at State level.
I have been saying this all along, and WAY too many lefties on this forum simply could not understand the Constitutional FACTS of such.

Now, on to the legislation Congress passed in 1948 to handle any such 14th Amendment ineligibility...

18 US Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

NO ONE has been charged with this as a result of what happened on Jan 6 due to sheer lack of evidence. Period.
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