Tennessee is trying to ban 'chemtrails' from planes based on a wild conspiracy theory
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No, chemtrails are human made clouds. Contrails are crystallized water vapor molecules that don’t form clouds. They rapidly evaporate and disappear within seconds to minutes.
Bull. Seen them last hours in my youth.
Not only that, your super special picture has planes at different times and more importantly altitudes.
Hey, I know I will never convince you so my comments are meant for the other posters.
You keep making the same inaccurate associations to justify your conclusions. Condensation trails do not persist for hours and hours. You can see a common condensation tails evaporate, maintaining the same short length trailing behind the planes, as they only remain visible for minutes, not hours. . Those trails do not remain fixed in the sky stretching from one horizon to another, because they are just ice crystals suspended in the air for a brief moment.
Chemtrails are entirely different, as those do linger for hours, and create visible trails extending from one horizon to another, and often appear in checkerboard patterns in the sky.
Short trail evaporating quickly is a con-trail, while persistent long trails are chem trails.
This photo I took one day when tne spraying was pretty intense. These are chemtrails …
No, chemtrails are human made clouds. Contrails are crystallized water vapor molecules that don’t form clouds. They rapidly evaporate and disappear within seconds to minutes.
Doubt that bit about disappearing in minutes. Persistence mostly depends upon the atmospheric water content at that altitude.
During WWII the contrails left by large bomber raids persisted for hours.
Ground level cooling was obverved below.
They were sometimes a problem because formations were maintained by visual contact, and follow-up boxes sometimes were unable to see each other due to persistent contrails left by the preceding boxes.
My assumption is the particles coming out of the engine are burned exhaust soot/dust and isn't that toxic? No one should breathe the exhaust of an engine.
It's mostly water vapor, but yes - exhaust from a combustion engine isn't nice. That's why we keep inventing things to clean the exhaust and smoke stacks so they are not so toxic.
Jet fuel combustion results in CO2, H2O, CO, C, NOx. For every 1kg of jet fuel burned, you get 0.04g of carbon and 14g of NOx, and 1g of SO2.
Sulfur Dioxide and Nitrogen Dioxide are the worst, they cause irritation.
Nothing is "toxic", but everything is toxic in the right quantity.
N2O2 in + CnHm+S + heat => CO2+H2O+N2+O2+NOx+UHC+CO+C+SOx.
In a perfect combustion chamber N2O2 + CnHm+S + heat => CO2+H2O+N2+Ox+SO2
72% of what comes out of a jet engine is CO2, 27.6% is water vapor. 84% of the remaining 0.4% is NOx. 11.8% of the 0.4% is CO. 4% of the 0.4% is unburnt hydrocarbons. 0.1% of the 0.4% is C.
"Chemtrails" / geo-engineering - would basically doing what coal factories used to do. Injecting sulfur into the atmosphere. Sulfur dioxide is a cooling agent. That's why the Earth cools when there's a large land based volcanic eruption.
Now the underwater volcano that exploded a couple years ago, that had the opposite effect. It instantly vaporized trillions of gallons of sea water and sent it to the upper atmosphere, warming the Earth (that's why it was so Darn HOT this summer).
Thanks for that pic of 1940 aircraft forming contrails. I thought only jet engines form contrails but any engine can apparently do so if conditions are right. Found this:
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Contrails are short for condensation trails, which are line-shaped clouds that form behind aircraft engines or wings due to changes in air pressure and temperature. Contrails are mostly made of water vapor and ice crystals, but they can also contain some exhaust particles and pollutants from the fuel combustion... quora
Engines make heat and pressure and that can make condensation from water vapor which can freeze as ice particles which we can see as a cloud. Clouds can linger as long as suitable conditions continue, natural or man-made. We see clouds linger all the time.
Jet engines produce pollutants but I wonder how much, and how much exhaust pollutants are in a contrail? And drift down? Something no one talks about. Because:
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.. there could be anywhere from 8,000 to 20,000 planes mid-flight at any given moment, according to Flightradar24.
It's mostly water vapor, but yes - exhaust from a combustion engine isn't nice. That's why we keep inventing things to clean the exhaust and smoke stacks so they are not so toxic.
Jet fuel combustion results in CO2, H2O, CO, C, NOx. For every 1kg of jet fuel burned, you get 0.04g of carbon and 14g of NOx, and 1g of SO2.
Sulfur Dioxide and Nitrogen Dioxide are the worst, they cause irritation.
Nothing is "toxic", but everything is toxic in the right quantity.
N2O2 in + CnHm+S + heat => CO2+H2O+N2+O2+NOx+UHC+CO+C+SOx.
In a perfect combustion chamber N2O2 + CnHm+S + heat => CO2+H2O+N2+Ox+SO2
72% of what comes out of a jet engine is CO2, 27.6% is water vapor. 84% of the remaining 0.4% is NOx. 11.8% of the 0.4% is CO. 4% of the 0.4% is unburnt hydrocarbons. 0.1% of the 0.4% is C.
Thanks for posting this. There is little doubt that jet engine contrails contain pollution as you describe. So far there has been little taste for mandating a reduction because of the cost of redesigning turbine engines to accomplish that. Those costs would be passed on as increased fares, and consumers are not willing to foot the bill. However hybrid air propulsion systems (electric, hydrogen) are all in the R&D pipeline and we will see those one day.
The loony "chemtrail" conspiracies have been around for decades - it's not too surprising that a Southern state legislature would legitimize this nonsense. We drift further and further from rational governance every single day.
GEOENGINEERING IS NOT CHEMTRAILS! They are not the same concepts and the bill never mentions the term "chemtrails". The articles linked by the OP are just BS.
I don't believe in the silly chemtrail conspiracy theories - Delta and United jets spewing chemtrails under the direction of some shadow government to control the population, get them ready for the alien invasion or whatever...Those are vapor trails.
Geoengineering is a blanket term that covers a variety of efforts to control carbon dioxide and solar radiation. Cloud seeding is an example. It's potentially dangerous because the results of these efforts may disrupt other systems. This legislation I see as good, and mainly proactive. Several states and many countries have similar legislation, and again it has nothing to do with chemtrails. It doesn't outlaw geoengineering efforts, it just covers that any spraying or chemical release should obtain state government approval before it commences. Mostly, it's a preemptive reaction to a measure signed into law by President Joe Biden in 2022 instructing the Office of Science and Technology Policy to work with NASA on research of climate intervention.
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The loony "chemtrail" conspiracies have been around for decades - it's not too surprising that a Southern state legislature would legitimize this nonsense. We drift further and further from rational governance every single day.
Like I said above, "chemtrails" are not the same as "geoengineering". Other states as well have or are working on legislation. In fact the international community is working on a governance board to regulate geoengineering. Yeah...you fell for the OPs partisan politics article meant for useful idiots.
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