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Old 04-04-2024, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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It is OK. Robots to the rescue. AI will take your burger order at the Kiosk and Flippy will cook it and serve it. There will be one employee working alone to open, close, stock the ingredients each morning, etc.

Fast food work was never meant to be a "career". It was a job for teenagers to transition to the larger workforce, doing real full time work. It was a job for part timers to earn pick-up money. Maybe something for ex-cons to earn a living when nobody else would hire them.

It was never meant to provide a "living wage". That is what real jobs were for. Fast food, ice cream servers, babysitting, working the state fair. These were supposed to be jobs just to get your feet wet to prepare you for "real" work.

 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:11 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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They can go work as maids in the hotels out there.
That union just won big raises last month...$35/hour
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Democrats will tell us that this Foster’s Freeze is a poorly run business, and THAT is why they couldn’t absorb the minimum wage increase. Nothing is ever the fault of poor Democrat policy.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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They can go work as maids in the hotels out there.
That union just won big raises last month...$35/hour
And then complain that “illegals are taking our jobs.”
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:23 PM
 
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It is OK. Robots to the rescue. AI will take your burger order at the Kiosk and Flippy will cook it and serve it. There will be one employee working alone to open, close, stock the ingredients each morning, etc.

Fast food work was never meant to be a "career". It was a job for teenagers to transition to the larger workforce, doing real full time work. It was a job for part timers to earn pick-up money. Maybe something for ex-cons to earn a living when nobody else would hire them.

It was never meant to provide a "living wage". That is what real jobs were for. Fast food, ice cream servers, babysitting, working the state fair. These were supposed to be jobs just to get your feet wet to prepare you for "real" work.
Teenagers are generally not available for the busiest time for fast food, lunch. As they are in school, can't base a business around that.

It's increasingly the elderly you see staffing these positions. Who have been left behind by changes in the job market and couldn't upskill but still need an income.

FDR on introducing the minimum wage:
"It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living."
Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:26 PM
 
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Frankly, it's good to see a state make decisions like this.

We can see if they work (or not) and then learn from it without risking causing a mess of things.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:32 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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And then complain that “illegals are taking our jobs.”
LOL..part of the union contract is that NO e-verify may be used

Jobs Americans don't want to do...$35/hour = $73K a year
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Seacoast NH
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And yet two restaurants partially owned by Gov. Newsom are advertising job openings for $16 and hour, not the $20 he requires by law. Funny how that works. Also, a major contributor to his campaign got a waiver for the $20/hour because he restaurant makes bread as well as sandwiches (Panera Bread).
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Frankly, it's good to see a state make decisions like this.

We can see if they work (or not) and then learn from it without risking causing a mess of things.
And it's still NOT a living wage.

MIT living wage calculator says $26/hour for single person, $82/hour for mom+3 kids
 
Old 04-04-2024, 12:35 PM
 
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I think In and Out already had a decent wage, so $20 may not have been as much of a stretch for them.
"Decent" is of course a matter of opinion. People wanted a "decent" wage of $15 just a few years ago. Now, it's $20 and that will just continue to increase.

The minimum wage was already $16 and In-N-Out was paying about $17-$18 according to their signs, they are now advertising $20. There was some variations between FF restaurants seemed to be in the range of $16-$18. Now, every single sign I've seen has been $20. So where In-N-Out was paying slightly more, there no longer appears to be a difference between them and McDonald's.

But as expected I am seeing the same rates being asked for at a couple of the local "Mom And Pop" restaurants we go to.
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