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Old Yesterday, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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The channel 3 article refers to the shooter as "they". I wonder if it's another trans kid involved in this one? Mental heath issues are behind a lot of this sort of thing and gender dysphoria is a mental illness. A rather severe one.
I noticed that too in the opening sentence. Not sure if they're trying to be what has become politically correct or if they just didn't know if the person was male or female. Obviously, he was a male (based on the picture released later).
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Old Yesterday, 05:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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There's no curing a demented, crazed, wannabe mass shooter who takes weapon(s) to a school and starts firing. Even if s/he is only 14 yrs old. You choose the behaviors, you choose the consequences.
This! ^
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Old Yesterday, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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Middle school kid (Damian Haglund), 14, stole his grandfathers car and gun at 11:00 AM yesterday, crashed the car into a house, then walked to the middle school parking lot, firing multiple rounds. Students alerted parents and school officials.
Until we start throwing the parents and grandparents of the shooters in jail for life or worse this will be the new normal. Keeping guns comes with a responsibility. Let us replace gun control with owners' control.

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Old Yesterday, 05:47 PM
 
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Cops couldn't disarm and detain a 14 y/o?
You missed the words "armed". IF you had any real education of history, many military combatants of the past century were that age.

But hey, keep trying to blame the police for someone trying to murder people.
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Old Yesterday, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Sadly this is the new normal for American schools.
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Old Yesterday, 05:51 PM
 
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Middle school kid (Damian Haglund), 14, stole his grandfathers car and gun at 11:00 AM yesterday, crashed the car into a house, then walked to the middle school parking lot, firing multiple rounds. Students alerted parents and school officials.
Until we start throwing the parents and grandparents of the shooters in jail for life or worse this will be the new normal. Keeping guns comes with a responsibility. Let us replace gun control with owners' control.
The minute you start holding parents responsible for shooters, you're gonna be a racist. #BLM 2020. Most young shooters in the US are poor, brown and urban and gang related.

Just wanted to point out why your suggestion will never fly and why.

Do you not pay attention to whom is doing most of the shooting in the US and whom the victims are?

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Old Yesterday, 05:55 PM
 
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You and I actually agree on this. I do think it's a combination of what's out there on the net, the covid lockdowns, the drugs a good per centage of these kids are on, the lack of religion and the breakdown of the family unit.

Women wanted kids but careers too and the kids suffered - sure the parents were able to buy them things they might have not had otherwise but that was traded with less bonding and family time, less supervision and now due to the economy - I see more 2 income households than I see one.

Mom and dad come home and there are still household choirs to do and the kids are often forgotten about.
Yes I see the logic here, and it makes sense in theory, but my generation (X) practically raised themselves as the working parent family became the norm in the late 70’s 80’s. Australia has never been particularly religious, so I don’t think less religious households are to blame. Lots of religious households in the US, yet this still happens. It seems to me like my generation actually had more freedom from parental oversight, not less.

Whatever it is (and it’s probably a combo of factors as you point out) it’s relatively recent.

Drugs is an interesting variable, drugs are much more potent now than they were back then.

Covid lockdowns I’ll agree harmed a lot of youth in their formative years, the lack of socialisation had to have had a negative impact.

It’s like a lot of kids have no purpose and little regard for themselves, let alone their fellow humans.

ETA - as an aside note, not to make it too personal, but all schools in my state have now banned the use of phones on school grounds. They have to lock their phones in a pouch and it gets unlocked leaving school. My kid loves it, says students are so much more connected with each other and it’s actually more chill at school. It’s been in place for a year now. Be interesting to see how this pans out.

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Old Yesterday, 05:56 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Until we start throwing the parents and grandparents of the shooters in jail for life or worse this will be the new normal.
Yeah, go ahead and blame everyone except the psycho who pulled the trigger.
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Old Yesterday, 06:28 PM
 
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I'm not surprised.
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Old Today, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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Yeah, go ahead and blame everyone except the psycho who pulled the trigger.
A 14-year old can't walk into Cabela's and get a rifle. The shooter and his family are equally responsible.
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