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Old 06-20-2008, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Here is someone that is asking the people to do something to remove an individual the right despises and what do the people on the right do? They insult the ENTIRE district by using demeaning generalizations and stating irrational conclusions about people they don't know anything about. "Hey, Vern, let's poke fun at them commie liberal psychotic Demo wingnut dingleberries...!"

I hate the right even though I side with them on some major issues. Why? Because of the two sides in this worthless struggle, they are the side that is full of hate. When the right actually shows there's a rational thought in their head and a beating heart in their chest, then perhaps our country will stand a chance at survival. Until then, when the country collapses and chaos reigns, when our guns are used on each other and we're killing each other for gas and food, we'll have the right to thank. It was their unflinching and unnecessary divisiveness which drove in the final stake. YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE.
Haha. Exaggerate much? Check my posts. I WANT Cindy to win. She's the LIBERAL candidate -- remember?

Once the left actually shows that there's a brain in their head, then perhaps our country will stop playing silly games with "married" interior decorators and untapped oil reserves that are unfortunately inhabited by doe-eyed carnivores. Until then, as the country dissolves in absurd ennui and false cries for change, and when we sue each other into legal gridlock, we'll have the left to thank. It was the left's unflinching and unnecessary elitism and self-emasculation which tried to drive in the final stake, but failed -- limp as it was.

Thank God.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:41 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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Here is someone that is asking the people to do something to remove an individual the right despises and what do the people on the right do? They insult the ENTIRE district by using demeaning generalizations and stating irrational conclusions about people they don't know anything about.
Actually, since it's, you know, a democracy and all, your government is a manifestation of the culture of the population. Pelosi is the manifestation of that district.

If you pay real close attention, the wackos are generally in the House because they represent a relatively small group of people. Senators are generally a little more subtle. Presidents are generally the closest to middle of the road (+1 to the right or left).

That's just how it works... so it's accurate to say the Pelosi's district is primarily a bunch of nut jobs.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I hate the right even though I side with them on some major issues. Why? Because of the two sides in this worthless struggle, they are the side that is full of hate.
I beg to differ. Surely you've heard of Bush Deranged Syndrome, that disease that has afflicted the left of this country for 7 long years?

They are so full of hate they have not a speck of reason left.

I know why they hate him so; He has defeated them at every turn.Today was the icing on the cake as the dems/libs caved in completely.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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Hey there are many Californians that would prefer it if we were a separate country from the U.S. & based on most of the responses by the Republicans they would also like California to leave the Union.

But the reality is that the U.S. has a system of government that reflects the diversity of our nation. Pelosi is considered a typical Democrat in California, not on the far Left [Green/socialist] wing & certainly not a "blue-blood" conservative Democrat. Pelosi represents her district, most of the city of San Francisco & even infuriated her district by not allowing impeachment proceedings against Bush.

California has the largest number of congress people b/c it is the largest state in the U.S. [population]. The people of California are represented by Pelosi as the speaker of the house & like that just fine.

Republicans have there extreme radical religious Right districts to represent the yahoos so quit complaining & face reality that you live in a bubble of irrationality & ignorance.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:56 PM
 
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Actually, since it's, you know, a democracy and all, your government is a manifestation of the culture of the population. Pelosi is the manifestation of that district.

If you pay real close attention, the wackos are generally in the House because they represent a relatively small group of people. Senators are generally a little more subtle. Presidents are generally the closest to middle of the road (+1 to the right or left).

That's just how it works... so it's accurate to say the Pelosi's district is primarily a bunch of nut jobs.
I still see no evidence to conclude that the entire district (or the majority of it) is a bunch of nut jobs. And I don't think for a second that there's any credible relationship between a candidate and the constituency. America is not well represented by its, um, representatives, otherwise, their approval ratings would be better. I think I take offense at the attack on a whole group of people but I understand your point of view. I for one can't stand the sorry woman (Pelosi) and I think she got her high position because she wouldn't do anything. Now, let's get all the incumbents out of office and elect another bunch of more effective nut jobs!

I just wish that we could have a civil discourse without resorting to mass generalizations and insults. It serves no purpose but to further divide and push the solutions farther away. Sigh.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:15 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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And I don't think for a second that there's any credible relationship between a candidate and the constituency.
Life lesson #36: When people are offended by the actions of their representation, they take action to get rid of the representation.


If you accept that as true, it's not a terrible leap to conclude that Pelosi represents the local values.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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Life lesson #36: When people are offended by the actions of their representation, they take action to get rid of the representation.

If you accept that as true, it's not a terrible leap to conclude that Pelosi represents the local values.
Agreed, it's not a terrible leap, it's just not conclusive. When you basically have two choices on the ballot and neither matches your values, you'll vote for one of them anyway. The world isn't so easily divided into two parts/parties/ideologies. There is a conservative state with a lesbian governor and she was even reelected. Tell me that isn't a contradiction of representation!
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:33 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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Agreed, it's not a terrible leap, it's just not conclusive. When you basically have two choices on the ballot and neither matches your values, you'll vote for one of them anyway. The world isn't so easily divided into two parts/parties/ideologies.
Life lesson #37: When a person is sufficiently unhappy with their options, they help create alternative options. If they have yet to reach the point of creating alternative options, they are demonstrating that those presented are "good enough", or, more relevantly, not too far off from their own ideals.

If you hold that to be true, then it's not a big leap to conclude that the citizens of Pelosi's district are whack jobs.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:33 PM
 
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Hey there are many Californians that would prefer it if we were a separate country from the U.S. & based on most of the responses by the Republicans they would also like California to leave the Union.

But the reality is that the U.S. has a system of government that reflects the diversity of our nation. Pelosi is considered a typical Democrat in California, not on the far Left [Green/socialist] wing & certainly not a "blue-blood" conservative Democrat. Pelosi represents her district, most of the city of San Francisco & even infuriated her district by not allowing impeachment proceedings against Bush.

California has the largest number of congress people b/c it is the largest state in the U.S. [population]. The people of California are represented by Pelosi as the speaker of the house & like that just fine.

Republicans have there extreme radical religious Right districts to represent the yahoos so quit complaining & face reality that you live in a bubble of irrationality & ignorance.
haha, and here I was getting ready to actually congragulate you for getting one posting right,

You pointed out that this nation is a breakup of different states,
each state has different thoughts and ideas
the people of California like Pelosi, and even though the rest of the country think she's a wacko, this is how the founding fathers established the country.

And then you went off on some left wing koo koo tangent about the Republicans.

Odd to think you want us to accept the radical left Pelosi, and then you thought justified into attacking the right..

You were this close, to having an objective accurate posting and had to ruin it in the last minute.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:42 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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haha, and here I was getting ready to actually congragulate you for getting one posting right,

You pointed out that this nation is a breakup of different states,
each state has different thoughts and ideas
the people of California like Pelosi, and even though the rest of the country think she's a wacko, this is how the founding fathers established the country.

And then you went off on some left wing koo koo tangent about the Republicans.

Odd to think you want us to accept the radical left Pelosi, and then you thought justified into attacking the right..

You were this close, to having an objective accurate posting and had to ruin it in the last minute.

Sorry but you apparently didn't read all the insulting remarks about California that spew from the likes of mamabeedoodoo & others.
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