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Exactly.
I've spent plenty of time in the UK, in all its damp glory: Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England.
I even witnessed a London IRA bombing in 1974: does that make me more authentic?
I think I have a pretty good idea of the real deal. I understand it's more Nil By Mouth or Roddy Doyle than Braveheart or The Quiet Man.
So what? I'm not planning on moving to Britain anytime soon.
Am quite happy with my Irish*American* culture, the step-dancing exhibitions, wearing green on March 17, my ancient Clancy Brothers records.
Pat yourself on the back, FFH.
The rest of us deluded souls will merrily continue with our collective Irish fantasy.
Since you've spent time here then you must be aware that cynicism is a virtue in these parts.
But cynic or no, it must be stressed American Irishness is about as authentic as a street parade of Japanese Elvis impersonators.
Exactly.
I've spent plenty of time in the UK, in all its damp glory: Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England.
I even witnessed a London IRA bombing in 1974: does that make me more authentic?
I think I have a pretty good idea of the real deal. I understand it's more Nil By Mouth or Roddy Doyle than Braveheart or The Quiet Man.
So what? I'm not planning on moving to Britain anytime soon.
Am quite happy with my Irish*American* culture, the step-dancing exhibitions, wearing green on March 17, my ancient Clancy Brothers records.
Pat yourself on the back, FFH.
The rest of us deluded souls will merrily continue with our collective Irish fantasy.
It's falling on deaf ears cil. It's funny how someone supports an argument like this with at typical working class American attitude. "I've been here longer, I've spent more time here, therefore I must know more than you". lol.
I have never once told a recent Irish immigrant who showed up at the pub in Woodside that they will never know what it's like to be a true American. It's rude, and it's bad form. I can't presume to know all their life experiences, and what their ability to relate to us is. Most know that works both ways. I hope FFH isn't scratching his/her head at UTR, hopefully he/she understands THAT much about Ireland.
FFH - With an attitude like that, wouldn't you be more comfortable in London?
It's falling on deaf ears cil. It's funny how someone supports an argument like this with at typical working class American attitude. "I've been here longer, I've spent more time here, therefore I must know more than you". lol.
I have never once told a recent Irish immigrant who showed up at the pub in Woodside that they will never know what it's like to be a true American. It's rude, and it's bad form. I can't presume to know all their life experiences, and what their ability to relate to us is. Most know that works both ways
-TT
Untrue. It doesn't work both ways. Americans are by definition from everywhere else. True Irish (or any other domestic breed you choose) are culturally who they are because their roots are sunk centuries deep. We are who we are because, well, our culture blows in the wind of mass media. Anyone can be like us because our culture transforms itself nearly every decade.
Case in point, me. I have lived in Scotland for nigh on 7 years. I'm pretty clued in to life here. Yet I *never* claim to be Scottish, and if I lived five lifetimes more here I'd still never be Scottish. That's the difference between them and us. They can become Americans, we can't become them.
Okay guys, I have a new controversial topic I'd like to discuss. We hear a lot about 'black culture', 'latino culture', and 'asian culture' in this country and how it needs to be preserved and respected. My question is, do you believe there is a 'white culture' in this country? If so, should it be 'preserved and respected' equally to those mentioned--why or why not? I'm curious to hear opinions on the topic.
I believe there is no such thing as white culture. There is however many different ethnic cultures such as German, Italian, French, Irish etc. Each mand every one should be embrassed, preserved and respected.
Untrue. It doesn't work both ways. Americans are by definition from everywhere else. True Irish (or any other domestic breed you choose) are culturally who they are because their roots are sunk centuries deep. We are who we are because, well, our culture blows in the wind of mass media. Anyone can be like us because our culture transforms itself nearly every decade.
Case in point, me. I have lived in Scotland for nigh on 7 years. I'm pretty clued in to life here. Yet I *never* claim to be Scottish, and if I lived five lifetimes more here I'd still never be Scottish. That's the difference between them and us. They can become Americans, we can't become them.
Domestic breed? What are we AKC registered? LOL had to same something on that one!! BTW I am Irish/german, would I be a mixed Breed ie. Mutt?
I think our culture has come together over the years. Our ancestors brought over their culture and over time has come together with others to become americas culture. I would hate to think our culture was just baseball and hot dogs!!!
I know that!!!!!! I just come from irish and german blood.
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