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Old 07-19-2008, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Artist/Photographer Andres Serrano, who made himself famous back in the late '80s for photographic a crucifix in his own urine and also photographing a bull head dripping blood straight from the slaughterhouse placed over a white sofa is now photographing his own feces to show at an upcoming art show.

PHOTOGRAPHER ANDRES SERRANO USES HIS OWN FECES IN NEW ART SHOW- New York Post

Another sign of the times. What has art become today? Should this stuff be funded by the government?
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:40 PM
 
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Does artistic expression follow the culture or help mold it? Was rock-n-roll an expression of rebellion against the emotionally repressive 50s or were Elvis' gyrations the catalyst for 60s free love?

I find this man's art tasteless (in more ways than one). My view is that his art is done for shock value and is not a real response to anything but done expressly for the notoriety of public derision and, ultimately, the money that comes with it. We are a society that glorifies the bad guys. We all remember Tonya Harding but forget that other skater she had knee-capped.

It appears bchris02 that you're waiting for anyone here to say, "Yes, the government should fund this stuff" just so you can argue with them. While I do believe if we fund art at least we aren't funding war, who would be the judge of where the funds are distributed? I like what I like (give me Ed Mell at his prime and many other landscape artists and photographers) and other people might, just might, like Serrano. Which brings me back to my question... is this guy responding to our addiction to gore and potty humor or is he forcing us to look at such things in a different fashion? I think he's a charlatan who's raping us for a buck and I pity the poor art crowd that's giving this guy more than a passing glance.

Edit: so, yes, I too ask where are the Van Gogh's and Picasso's of today? Are they not here because we simply don't know what art is anymore, because we don't appreciate it? Or are these mystery people employing artistic talents in other areas?
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:41 AM
 
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[quote=bchris02;4526704].....is now photographing his own feces to show at an upcoming art show.[quote]

People who consider what you mentioned as art do can't appreciate nor do they deserve the Picassos and Van Gohs. Pearls before swine.

Like asking for a White Castle at Ruth Chris.
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Have any of you been to an art gallery or museum lately? The world is FULL of brilliant artists, a few of which will prove to be the Picassos of the future. Unfortunately, **** in a jar gets more attention.
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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yes, where have all the "great" ones gone? if my tax dollar goes to fund crap like this, we are going to have another revolution.


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Old 07-20-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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How is the painting above "crap"? It's composition is balanced and the color scheme is exquisite. It's not my cup of tea and I think it's pretty simplistic, but it's better than many things I've seen promoted as good.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I think it sucks, but I wasn't really referring to the painting as being crap. I was referring to art as "crap" if they want tax payer dollar to fund it.

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How is the painting above "crap"? It's composition is balanced and the color scheme is exquisite. It's not my cup of tea and I think it's pretty simplistic, but it's better than many things I've seen promoted as good.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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People forget that Picasso actually had a solid education in traditional painting and sculpture before he started doing all that other stuff. I doubt many "modern artists" have anything close to that sort of background.

It's sort of like how poets used to be expected to read Greek and Latin and be familiar with the western canon before trying to add to it.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:23 PM
 
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More than likely the Van Gogh's and Picasso's of today will not be known for quite some time.
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:23 PM
 
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well if you knew anything about Van Gogh he didn't become famous until after his death.
Jmarquise there is beauty in simplicity but i would expect somebody who is more concerned about his tax dollar not to understand.
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