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as you can see the Nazi were not extreme right like people think..
That's if you use the 2 dimensional model such as what you've shown - which is by the way (I think) a better view than the traditional Right/Left view. In the traditional Right/Left 1 dimensional model normally used, Nazi's are indeed on the extreme Right while Communists are on the extreme Left - essentially a combination of the Up and Down and Left and Right sections of your 2 dimensional model.
The thing to keep in mind about ALL of these depictions is that they are ALL simply ways of categorizing and visualizing a myriad of political views. All of these models have their flaws and none are perfect - though the 2 dimensional ones your presented (essentially different depictions of the same model) are probably the best - even if they do remind me of the Good-Evil/Lawful-Chaotic alignments from the old Dungeons and Dragons game.
All this is pretty much the thesis of John Dean's book, Conservatives Without Conscience, which is a very good read even for most conservatives. Dean has collaborated with Bob Altemeyer on this and other expressions of the general idea, and he paints a fairly apt picture into which a great deal of latter-day US history fits quite neatly...
That's if you use the 2 dimensional model such as what you've shown - which is by the way (I think) a better view than the traditional Right/Left view. In the traditional Right/Left 1 dimensional model normally used, Nazi's are indeed on the extreme Right while Communists are on the extreme Left - essentially a combination of the Up and Down and Left and Right sections of your 2 dimensional model.
The thing to keep in mind about ALL of these depictions is that they are ALL simply ways of categorizing and visualizing a myriad of political views. All of these models have their flaws and none are perfect - though the 2 dimensional ones your presented (essentially different depictions of the same model) are probably the best - even if they do remind me of the Good-Evil/Lawful-Chaotic alignments from the old Dungeons and Dragons game.
Ken
PS - Thanks for posting those depictions.
I agree..
In todays world we cant see it as 2 dimensions like right or left..
we have liberal right, liberal left, conservative right, conservative left...
Take me for example.. I am right(extremly right) on the economic scale or Neo-liberalism,, and I am Libertarian,, In other words,, i am a liberal conservative.. I agree with democrates in a few social ideals... but dont agree with their economic ideals... I dont agree with all of the social ideals with the republicans but agree very strongly with the economic ideals...
That's if you use the 2 dimensional model such as what you've shown - which is by the way (I think) a better view than the traditional Right/Left view. In the traditional Right/Left 1 dimensional model normally used, Nazi's are indeed on the extreme Right while Communists are on the extreme Left - essentially a combination of the Up and Down and Left and Right sections of your 2 dimensional model.
The thing to keep in mind about ALL of these depictions is that they are ALL simply ways of categorizing and visualizing a myriad of political views. All of these models have their flaws and none are perfect - though the 2 dimensional ones your presented (essentially different depictions of the same model) are probably the best - even if they do remind me of the Good-Evil/Lawful-Chaotic alignments from the old Dungeons and Dragons game.
Ken
PS - Thanks for posting those depictions.
The National Socialist Party of Germany could hardly be construed as right-wing, except by the truly ignorant. If you want examples of right-wing fascists, use Ferdinand of Spain or Pinochet of Chile. Using Hitler as an example of right-wing authoritarianism only demonstrates your lack of education.
In the psychiatric community the disorder is called anti-social pathology:
The essential feature for the diagnosis is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others . . . deceit and manipulation are considered essential features of the disorder".
This pathology is clearly evident in the GOP [starting with Bush]. There are similar types in other cultures/countries [ie radical Islam\ Communist China-North Korea
Sounds like you are referring to Anti-Social Personality Disorder (formerly known as Psychopath)
That really fails to explain the liberal need to use force like tehy did at ruby ridge and waco for minmor weapon violations. It seem that liberals over react to just about evry law enforcement situaion they get into and froget individaul rights if they don't like the group or individaul they are dealing with. Both instances are now taught in police schools as now not to react to a situation.
This is the second time I have seen this reference to "liberals" using force at Ruby Ridge and Waco here on CDF. Can you please explain how the police actions in either case were in any way part of some liberal political force or agenda?
Again, the political spectrum is not linear. Where the left and right meet you'll find authoritarianism; the liberals hate guns and the right-wingers hate people against authority...that's where ruby ridge fits in. Whatever the political view...people in authority feel the need to exert their authority. This is why I'm opposed to the expansion of government and bureaucracy.
Liberals don't hate guns. Some liberals like guns, alot. If you want to increase your chances of being in error, generalize.
I happenend upon a link, much more interesting, that divulges the interconectedness of honey and brain cell membrane. Open your sinus cavity and insert a dog tail (the dog being dead for 123 day) and you will be enlightened.
Doofus.
"According to Altemeyer's research, right-wing authoritarians are more likely exhibit cognitive errors and symptoms of faulty reasoning."
LOL
You don't have to venture far from this board to find examples of this phenomenon.
The National Socialist Party of Germany could hardly be construed as right-wing, except by the truly ignorant. If you want examples of right-wing fascists, use Ferdinand of Spain or Pinochet of Chile. Using Hitler as an example of right-wing authoritarianism only demonstrates your lack of education.
Yes, and the People's Republic of China is a great example of a republic.
It is quite an interesting read, and sheds a lot of light on what is going on in our country and the mental processes of a lot of so-called "conservatives." This mental condition is based on three characteristics: Authoritarian submission (submission to established authorities), authoritarian aggression (general aggressiveness toward "deviants"), and conventionalism (a high degree of adherence to social norms).
Among other factors, RWAs can be identified as people who are ethnocentric, highly nationalistic, say they value freedom but actually work toward undermining the Bill of Rights, support capital punishment, oppose abortion, do not value equality very highly and oppose measures to increase it, and are not likely to rise in the Democratic party, but do so among Republicans.
I'm a proud RWA over here. If I had my choice, I'd submit this entire country to military or police rule and eliminate deviants. It is a good thing I'm not in charge, for you at least.
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