Nebraska Safe-Haven Law Permits Parents to Abandon Teens (legal, deaths, Obama)
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OMAHA, Neb. — Nebraska's new safe-haven law allowing parents to abandon unwanted children at hospitals with no questions asked is unique in a significant way: It goes beyond babies and potentially permits the abandonment of anyone under 19. While lawmakers may not have intended it, the month-old law raises the possibility that frustrated parents could drop off misbehaving teens or even severely disabled older children with impunity.
So..., what's next, dropping of grandma and grandpa; unwanted in-laws; overstayed visitors; the dead dog...! Just when I thought that our Marxist society couldn't sink any lower...!
I see where you are coming from, stevehazzard....but for me that alternative of dead babies in toilets is far worse.
As far as dumping off their teens...well, teens do know their names and where they live so chances are they would just make their ways back home . And disabled children, wow, that is a sad possibility. On the other hand, a disabled girl was killed her in a fire recently because her mother locked in her in the basement. Imagine dying of third degree burns.
I see where you are coming from, stevehazzard....but for me that alternative of dead babies in toilets is far worse.
As far as dumping off their teens...well, teens do know their names and where they live so chances are they would just make their ways back home . And disabled children, wow, that is a sad possibility. On the other hand, a disabled girl was killed her in a fire recently because her mother locked in her in the basement. Imagine dying of third degree burns.
A sorry business all the way around.
I'm sorry to tell you that these "abandoned baby laws" really don't work and IMO, are just a collective social method of tempering the results of the real problem which is unwanted babies and pregnancies. Our degenerative society has so glamorized the condition of pregnancy to a "status symbol", especially among teens, that it completely ignores the result of that pregnancy which is a human being and now being pregnant has lost all its glamor as a child needs to be "disposed of".
I'm sorry to tell you that these "abandoned baby laws" really don't work and IMO, are just a collective social method of tempering the results of the real problem which is unwanted babies and pregnancies. Our degenerative society has so glamorized the condition of pregnancy to a "status symbol", especially among teens, that it completely ignores the result of that pregnancy which is a human being and now being pregnant has lost all its glamor as a child needs to be "disposed of".
Okay, I'm sorry, but this makes no sense.
Either pregnancy is glamorized or it isn't.
Also, how do you figure the laws don't work? No, they are NOT going to solve every issue of babies in dumpsters, but if ONE young mother chooses to take advantage of a Safe Haven law instead of panicking and throwing her baby in the TRASH, then it has succeeded in the original goal, don't you think??? And babies HAVE been surrendered this way and some states HAVE reported a decrease in newborn deaths since these laws were implemented.
Also, how do you figure the laws don't work? No, they are NOT going to solve every issue of babies in dumpsters, but if ONE young mother chooses to take advantage of a Safe Haven law instead of panicking and throwing her baby in the TRASH, then it has succeeded in the original goal, don't you think??? And babies HAVE been surrendered this way and some states HAVE reported a decrease in newborn deaths since these laws were implemented.
I'm referring to the celerity and Hollywood types that have glamorized being pregnant as a way of furthering their careers, just take a look at the recent pregnancies of Jennifer Lopez, Jamie Lynn Spears and Angelina Jollie. The entertainment media then hypes these pregnancies and young girls look at being pregnant as a peer status symbol, for example, the high school teens in Gloucester, MA that thought it would be fun to be pregnant at the same time and raise their babies together. Unfortunately, the "fun" quickly disappeared when the teens realized that there would be a human being to care for as a result of their pregnancies.
IMO, the safe haven laws have encouraged unwanted pregnancies, especially in teens, because these "girls" know that after the "fun" of being pregnant no longer exists, they can always dispose of the baby, no questions asked, when they are faced with the reality of caring for a child. The fact that the baby can be put up for adoption is a good thing, encouraging teens to have "fun pregnancies" is not so good.
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OMAHA, Neb. — Nebraska's new safe-haven law allowing parents to abandon unwanted children at hospitals with no questions asked is unique in a significant way: It goes beyond babies and potentially permits the abandonment of anyone under 19.
Last I knew you are a legal adult on your 18th birthday so you can dump them at 18 anytime!
I am anxiously awaiting the detailed explanation from the non-Marxists about how to improve the welfare of unwanted dependents in dysfunctional households, who are subjected to everything from neglect to brutality, through no fault of their own.
And please don't read me the standard rolodex talking point that if everyone exercised responsibility, there would be no problem. Like, if every student got straignt As, all our school problems would be solved.
I interpret Steve's comments about glamorizing pregnancy to mean that pregnancy is glamorized with little thought given to childrearing. All these Hollywood babies are being raised by nannies, if they're lucky, and by no-one, if they're not.
Safe haven laws have not worked well in Colorado. Babies are still abandoned instead of being taken to the hospital, fire station, etc.
Maybe we need some respite places to drop teens for a few days/weeks!
Until a year ago, I lived in a medium sized city (I will not identify it, for its own protection) that had hundreds of "homeless" teens. There is a municipal shelter for homeles teens, that is currently expanding to over 100 beds. This is a city of less than 100,000 people. In addition to those in the shelter, there are coultless teens who are, temporarily or permanantly, living with the families of their school friends. Just taken in as a gesture of good will and benefaction. This has actually become a way of life in this city, where it is widely recognized and generally sanctioned by the populace. The city has a very low crime rate, and teens generally are pretty good about staying out of trouble.
By the way, another forward-looking aspect to this city. The public school system has established, free of charge, day-care for any girl who gives birth to a child before she graduates from high school and who wishes to continue her education. She is free, during school hours, to visit her child in the daycare center, which is located in the high school.
The median income in this city is 5K below the state median. Yet, the people are more than willing to direct their tax dollars to what they see as worthwhile social expenditures.
Until a year ago, I lived in a medium sized city (I will not identify it, for its own protection) that had hundreds of "homeless" teens. There is a municipal shelter for homeles teens, that is currently expanding to over 100 beds. This is a city of less than 100,000 people. In addition to those in the shelter, there are coultless teens who are, temporarily or permanantly, living with the families of their school friends. Just taken in as a gesture of good will and benefaction. This has actually become a way of life in this city, where it is widely recognized and generally sanctioned by the populace. The city has a very low crime rate, and teens generally are pretty good about staying out of trouble.
By the way, another forward-looking aspect to this city. The public school system has established, free of charge, day-care for any girl who gives birth to a child before she graduates from high school and who wishes to continue her education. She is free, during school hours, to visit her child in the daycare center, which is located in the high school.
The median income in this city is 5K below the state median. Yet, the people are more than willing to direct their tax dollars to what they see as worthwhile social expenditures.
Your post describes a socialized country, particularly, any of the Scandinavian countries. This is known as "cradle to grave" government care. This may work well in a socialized country because of it's size and homogeneous population, but socialism will not work in a capitalistic society such as the US. Should Nobama-Biden be elected to the White House, Americans will get a bitter taste of just how socialism is dysfunctional in a capitalistic country.
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. And disabled children, wow, that is a sad possibility. On the other hand, a disabled girl was killed her in a fire recently because her mother locked in her in the basement. Imagine dying of third degree burns. 
