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Most people around the world, including me, were quite impressed with how China managed to host one of the most successful summer Olympics Games ever. They spent roughly $40 billion and had a million+ volunteers, but they came through as promised and people didn't drop dead from air pollution.
Today I was talking with a friend from Taiwan who also deals with government entities back in his homeland, and he said if 2008 was China's year for Olympic gold, 2009 and 2010 will put Taiwan back on China's "front burner". For the last 5 or 6 years, Taiwan was given a lot of "breathing room" because China was focused on hosting the most successful Olympics possible, and did not want to rock the boat on the world stage and set off a boycott. Lately they had a few close calls with opposition uprisings in Tibet that got clamped down harsh and fast. But the word is circulating in Taiwan that the winds might start blowing in from their big brother across the straits.
Also, China is quietly delighted at the conflict between Russia and Georgia, because that takes attention away from them. They love the standoff between the US and Russia about the missile shield in Poland and Czech Rep.
China has knocked off a lot of big items from their "to do" list in the past decade or so. Macau and Hong Kong back into the fold, check. Send some guys into space, check. Become a global economic superpower, check. Make other superpowers highly dependent on China, check. Host a dazzling Olympics games, check-check. OK, the Olympics are over.
What's left on the list? One biggie: Taiwan. What do you think, when and how will China bring Taiwan into "One China". I don't think it will be as a result of military action - it will be some kind of huge deal like they pulled off with Hong Kong, but it will happen relatively quick - by the end of 2010. It will involve huge sums of money and investment, and may result in some significant political changes within China that will bring Taiwan into a deal. This is a as good a time as any for China to make a move, because the US will be preoccupied with a presidential election and new administration for the next year or so. Plus, we are still tangled up in Iraq and Afghan and have an economic mess on our hands.
What's left on the list? One biggie: Taiwan. What do you think, when and how will China bring Taiwan into "One China".
It will be peacefully by referendum with the Taiwanese choosing to be part of China.
There's still a few left in the old guard, but once the KMT is gone, that'll be the end of it.
The younger Chinese, especially the 30 and under crowd see their future with China, not the West and especially not the US, so it's only a matter of time.
Your view is also incredibly one-sided and biased.
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Originally Posted by recycled
China has knocked off a lot of big items from their "to do" list in the past decade or so. Macau and Hong Kong back into the fold, check
The British lease on Hong Kong expired. That was the end of it. There's no brilliant maneuvering on the part of China. China did not want to renew the lease, and they were not morally, ethically or legally obligated to do so.
As far as Macau, the Portuguese gave it up because they wanted to do that. You seem to ignore the fact that Portugal gave up all of its colonial possessions at the same time, not just Macau. Again, China did nothing. There's nothing illegal or sinister about China wanting to administrate a territory that another country freely wants to give up.
It will be peacefully by referendum with the Taiwanese choosing to be part of China.
There's still a few left in the old guard, but once the KMT is gone, that'll be the end of it.
The younger Chinese, especially the 30 and under crowd see their future with China, not the West and especially not the US, so it's only a matter of time.
Your view is also incredibly one-sided and biased.
The British lease on Hong Kong expired. That was the end of it. There's no brilliant maneuvering on the part of China. China did not want to renew the lease, and they were not morally, ethically or legally obligated to do so.
As far as Macau, the Portuguese gave it up because they wanted to do that. You seem to ignore the fact that Portugal gave up all of its colonial possessions at the same time, not just Macau. Again, China did nothing. There's nothing illegal or sinister about China wanting to administrate a territory that another country freely wants to give up.
Mircea
Another diabolical Chinese thread!
The OP needs to do some history check beyond relying on his Taiwanese friend. Why is it that the British had possession of HK in the first place? Why did the Portuguese have Macau? Why is it that the current inhabitants of Taiwan could simply go over to THAT island and occupy it while casting accusations at the the Chinese back on the mainland.
With that being said, I do not blame the OP. The OP and many others have been hearing this Taiwan good, China Commie Hell Hole bad chant for quite some time. Don't you know, if you just carry a picture of the Dalai Lama, they will execute you or worse!!!
The older generation Taiwanese harbor an unjustified superiority complex. Quite frankly, they looted the mainland on their way out leavening hundreds of millions of starving Chinese with no money, no infrastructure and no assistance. The Taiwanese took all the money, art, institutions (financial, medical and educational) leaving the mainlanders with nothing but a country devastated by the British, Japanese and finally by the Taiwanese.
It is as if Tonya Harding had won a gold medal for ice skating after having that poor girl's legs clubbed. Why would people continue to admire Tonya?
Here I go. Cheerleading again.
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The older generation Taiwanese harbor an unjustified superiority complex. Quite frankly, they looted the mainland on their way out leavening hundreds of millions of starving Chinese with no money, no infrastructure and no assistance. The Taiwanese took all the money, art, institutions (financial, medical and educational) leaving the mainlanders with nothing but a country devastated by the British, Japanese and finally by the Taiwanese.
Good for them. The money, art, and institutions that they took would have been burned up with the money, art, and institutions that remained behind by Mao's genius ideas like the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution.
Good for them. The money, art, and institutions that they took would have been burned up with the money, art, and institutions that remained behind by Mao's genius ideas like the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution.
And yes, you are a ChiCom cheerleader.
Frank
It was theirs to burn if they chose to do so. Hardly a justification to loot it.
I was watching a Discovery Channel program where a convicted (but apparently free) British antiquities smuggler used that very same argument about how he was actually saving things from the Arabs.
Last edited by Bob The Builder; 08-26-2008 at 04:36 AM..
bY jANUARY 1, 2021, IF NOT SOONER, tAIWAN WILL BE PART OF cHINA AGAIN. If China really wants Taiwan, there is nothing the US or anyone else can do about it.
bY jANUARY 1, 2021, IF NOT SOONER, tAIWAN WILL BE PART OF cHINA AGAIN. If China really wants Taiwan, there is nothing the US or anyone else can do about it.
Ok Daryl. ChiCom Cheerleader here. What is so special about that date?
Don't you read these threads? If everyone stopped shopping at Walmart, China's economy would seize up and the karma would do the rest!
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