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Old 12-26-2007, 04:04 AM
 
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USA should not get involved directly. UN, that is another thing. Let countries deal with their problems. USA should trade with countries, not fight against them.

Vietnam was partly an ideological war. It was a proxy war between USA and the Soviet Union. The Korean war was another one. Vietnam and Korea were merely third parties.

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You are preoccupied with this oil thing, why don't you give it a rest:

Isreal has no oil either.

Vietnam had no oil.

The biggest comparison to this is Somalia. They had no oil either, didn't stop us from getting involved. Look what happened when we did.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:14 AM
 
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Looks like its damned if you do, damned if you don't. If we go in and start killing the aggressors, then the some of the Muslim community in the Mideast will consider us infidels in the conflict. They hate the west, always have, always will, and we will always be wrong in their eyes no matter what we do. So, let Saudi Arabia send troops.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Looks like its damned if you do, damned if you don't. If we go in and start killing the aggressors, then the some of the Muslim community in the Mideast will consider us infidels in the conflict. They hate the west, always have, always will, and we will always be wrong in their eyes no matter what we do. So, let Saudi Arabia send troops.
Pretty much the way it is. Bottom line is that it is an issue for both the UN and the African Union to handle. We are very peripheral to this problem.

http://www.africa-union.org/root/au/index/index.htm
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:34 PM
 
Location: sd,ca
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Honestly, I find it surreal that the US has its hands full with making zero progress in Iraq and not even touching the situation in Darfur.
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:48 PM
 
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Honestly, I find it surreal that the US has its hands full with making zero progress in Iraq and not even touching the situation in Darfur.
Funny we can take a look at the same situation as you spelled it out and come to a different conclusion....

While you appear to wish to vilify the U.S. for having our hands full and not entering a war in a THIRD nation at present. I view it as we (The U.S.) are the ONLY nation that has a valid excuse for why we haven't intervened yet. WE ARE, IN FACT, MONUMENTALLY BUSY ELSEWHERE!!!

Like it or not, and most of the world has made it QUITE clear they don't, but we are stuck in Iraq cleaning up our mess and at the same time trying to salvage something in Afghanistan. Meanwhile these same nations have the GALL to stand on the sidelines and ask US why WE aren't doing something about Darfur???? HEY FRENCHY!!! Get your own troops in there and attempt to fix the problem if it bothers you so much. HEY GERMANY!!! No one said you weren't welcome to deploy "peacekeepers" in the Sudan. Be our guest.....

I laugh when nations criticize us for jumping in somewhere and then criticize us for NOT jumping in somewhere..... They resent us being the world police and then wonder where we are when the world needs policing.....

Again, IMO we are the ONLY major nation in the world with a valid excuse here...... Anyone want to ask the whole of Europe where THEY are???
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:51 PM
 
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The neo-conservatives have nothing to gain in Darfur. Do not confuse a small movement who have hijacked American foreign policy the last few decades with US as a whole.

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Honestly, I find it surreal that the US has its hands full with making zero progress in Iraq and not even touching the situation in Darfur.
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:45 PM
 
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Meanwhile these same nations have the GALL to stand on the sidelines and ask US why WE aren't doing something about Darfur????
Which nations? I can't recall any government leaders claiming that US troops should be deployed to Darfur. Seems like those calls are mostly coming from certain interests within the US.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:43 PM
 
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Let Europe or Russia handle it. They're not that busy. Plus it will get their minds off of wagging their fingers at us.

We did Somailia, the Balkans and now Iraq. It's time to share.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:44 PM
 
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So what are we going to do about it? Are we going to ignore it?

What does everyone think about this?
What do you think about it?
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Flyover country
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As horrible as the situation is, I agree with Yapcity that we have enough problems in our own country to take care of.
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