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Did you give a better health care plan to your employees?
Did your company deliver some type of beneficial program to the public? ( Not Charity )
Did your son or daughter die in Iraq or come back from Iraq missing a limb, have brain damage, loose half of their face or become paralized?
If you answere no to three or more of these questions you need to pay higher taxes!
The Deficit must be paid!
With a slow economy there are few sales taxes being generated so that wont pay the deficit.
With the middle class driving the economy with jobs and being the largest consumer group taxing them will not be wise. For it will mean a much slower economic recovery, if any. So that wont pay the deficit.
With businesses on the decline and not providing any real new jobs to speak of the Republican tax deffense is a wash.
So how is the deficit to be payed? Tax the wealthy. For too long have they hid behind the protection of saying their businesses have provided American Jobs and protected the US economy. Since they are not creating jobs and un-employeement is at a low, tax them. This will pay the deficit.
Sure they say that the deficit was created by Democrats. But I ask them to answere this if there was almost no deficit at the start of Bush's first office why is there one now?
Last edited by garisonthebull; 11-05-2008 at 08:52 PM..
God most of teh college grads that did service in the army need their txaes raised.Looks like McCain is freee and clear and Obama needs to pay alot more.
Let the limousine liberals pay for it. They've all been cheerfully stating for the last year that they'd gladly pay more - let 'em.
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With a slow economy there are few sales taxes being generated so that wont pay the deficit.
There's no federal sales tax - it's collected by the state and/or local governments. Your sales tax could go to 80% and it wouldn't do a damn thing to reduce the federal deficit.
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With businesses on the decline
Not mine. We've had steady and consistent increases each month. This month is already (just 5 days into it) looking like we'll be doing twice the business we did last month. Within 12-18 months we should be over the $250k mark - I guess our hard work and ingenuity will be penalized then.
Did you give a better health care plan to your employees?
Did your company deliver some type of beneficial program to the public? ( Not Charity )
Did your son or daughter die in Iraq or come back from Iraq missing a limb, have brain damage, loose half of their face or become paralized?
If you answere no to three or more of these questions you need to pay higher taxes!
The Deficit must be paid!
With a slow economy there are few sales taxes being generated so that wont pay the deficit.
With the middle class driving the economy with jobs and being the largest consumer group taxing them will not be wise. For it will mean a much slower economic recovery, if any. So that wont pay the deficit.
With businesses on the decline and not providing any real new jobs to speak of the Republican tax deffense is a wash.
So how is the deficit to be payed? Tax the wealthy. For too long have they hid behind the protection of saying their businesses have provided American Jobs and protected the US economy. Since they are not creating jobs and un-employeement is at a low, tax them. This will pay the deficit.
Sure they say that the deficit was created by Democrats. But I ask them to answere this if there was almost no deficit at the start of Bush's first office why is there one now?
you dont mean pay higher taxes, you mean steal more.
as far as your questions go;
nope, I am an employee not a employer.
my employer gives out health insurance.
without what my employer sells, liberals would be out screaming in the streets.
I came back from desert storm disabled, and my child is not old enough to go in the military.
as far as the deficit goes, it has always been there, probably always will be. you liberals talk about balansing the budget, but I never here you talk about paying off the deficit, I wonder why that is.
I wouldn't consider myself as wealthy, but I probably have more than most, so that most likely will place me in with the "evil rich" as far as democrats are concerned. I am also not a republican anymore because they are only slightly less socialist than the democratic party. However, I in no way believe that any particular group "owes" more than any other. Unless you are referring to the parasites who continually clamor for more and more government services. Those people do indeed owe more than they will ever be worth.
It is not my responsibility to give people jobs because they have no value of their own to sell.
I am not a doctor who charges more for services than customers can afford. Go yell at them.
I provide a great service to my public, I know this, because they FREELY pay me of their own choice.
I have no children, because I didn't want to bring another slave into the clutches of the government, but I did serve in Desert Storm under George Bush Senior. I don't know how this rates in your world.
Everything that I have is from my own determination and I have never asked for anything from the commie regimes that have been in power my entire life. I view all federal taxes as immoral and unjust. Sorry, but far too little of the budget is constitutional for any budget within the last 150 years to be legitimate. Actually, income tax itself is unconstitutional for that matter. Any suggestion that I have some responsibility to fund the socialist schemes of the kooks in power will never be accepted by me. I cringe when someone suggests that I personally am responsible for all of the beggars out there who would rather die than do what I had to to succeed.
So if you believe that someone "owes" you something, ask them for it face to face, don't be a pinko and try to get the godvernment to take it for you. At least have the balls to make your request in person, don't be surprised when you are summarily dismissed with laughter. The reality is that only socialists believe that they owe something to the government beyond very limited expense that has not been seen in ages. Virtually all taxation should take place at the local level, where the merits of the expense can be scrutinized very closely, and the effects are readily apparent. The federal God cannot die fast enough, cutting its funding off is the only solution.
how much is enough? please liberals, put on paper what is the minimum you think a business should pay. what do you think an owner of a company should make for his personal wage?
Uh "the rich" already pay more:
A) In absolute terms
AND
B) In terms relative to their share of income.
>But I ask them to answere this if there was almost no deficit at the start of Bush's first office why is there one now?<
1) Bush is a fiscal liberal
2) Sub prime mess which BOTH PARTIES bear blame but only one got nuked for it. Dems got to walk away scot free.
3) Declining tax receipts + more spending.
Im not rich. Tax rates are fine roughly where they are. There are tweaks Id make. "Carried interest" is taxed at cap gains for hedge fund managers is BS, it is income; estates should have a larger deduction.
I would not eliminate public schools, medicaid etc etc. For this I have been called socialist.
I would not double taxes on the rich, Welfare should be time limited. etc. For this I have been called a right wing kook.
I am not rich, I have a lot of debt right now. My whole life I have dreamt of starting my own business, working hard, and making good money because of that. I thought this was the American dream - making something for yourself out of nothing. I think it is a shame many people are discouraging this behavior. If the reward for hard work is to pay more and support those who didn't work as hard, why should I bother? Why should I try to make something of my life? I guess the real American dream is to sit back, do nothing and have someone else pay your way.
I am not rich, I have a lot of debt right now. My whole life I have dreamt of starting my own business, working hard, and making good money because of that. I thought this was the American dream - making something for yourself out of nothing. I think it is a shame many people are discouraging this behavior. If the reward for hard work is to pay more and support those who didn't work as hard, why should I bother? Why should I try to make something of my life? I guess the real American dream is to sit back, do nothing and have someone else pay your way.
Or go to work and do as little as possible and take credit for what others do. I have met a few of that kind too. Glad my parents raised me right, but it does leave you open to being abused by the lazy people.
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