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Old 12-12-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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President Obama has so convincing won the message war on taxes that according to new Bloomberg poll, nearly half of Republicans support raising taxes on the wealthy.

The Bloomberg poll found that Obama’s job approval rating (53%) is now at its highest level since December 2009. Two to one majorities support the president’s position on protecting Medicare and Social Security.

The biggest surprise in this poll was that despite two years of endless campaigning for not raising taxes on the wealthy, nearly half of Republicans support the president’s position that taxes need to be raised on the wealthy.Source
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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President Obama has so convincing won the message war on taxes that according to new Bloomberg poll, nearly half of Republicans support raising taxes on the wealthy.
Imagine how much further along toward full recovery we would be had the R's been willing
to cooperate with reality all along.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Imagine how much further along toward full recovery we would be had the R's been willing
to cooperate with reality all along.
And imagine what Obama is offering in exchange for those tax increases.

I'm expecting to see a lopsided trade, again. But don't worry, you guys will think it's awesome, no matter what.

Take a tough stance and when you "give in" the other party has come a lot further off their starting point than you have. Negotiations 101.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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Well duh, You knew that when dumbasses of this country reelected him. Yes many of my family and friends are dumbasses.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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My problem isn't with raising taxes, it's:

- What wealthy/rich is characterized as ($200/250k is outdated and too low to be defined this way)
- Spending needs to be cut, wasteful/pork spending especially, and entitlements and welfare re-worked

I suspect many feel the same.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by walidm View Post
President Obama has so convincing won the message war on taxes that according to new Bloomberg poll, nearly half of Republicans support raising taxes on the wealthy.

The Bloomberg poll found that Obama’s job approval rating (53%) is now at its highest level since December 2009. Two to one majorities support the president’s position on protecting Medicare and Social Security.

The biggest surprise in this poll was that despite two years of endless campaigning for not raising taxes on the wealthy, nearly half of Republicans support the president’s position that taxes need to be raised on the wealthy.Source
They're slow on the uptake but I knew eventually they would see reason
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Isn't that enough to pass the vote ? Or do they need all the Republicans, including Boehner ?
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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^I think the poll is on Americans, not Congressional members.

And I don't think Obama has convinced the American people, including Republicans. I think the realization that this is the only step forward, coupled with losing the election, are pushing those Republicans to side with hiked taxes. I have a feeling that if Romney had won, those numbers would not be so.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Imagine how much further along toward full recovery we would be had the R's been willing
to cooperate with reality all along.
Yea, just imagine lol, the rich could pay for 8 days of running the government then they would have be promoting "tax the middle class".

You don't get it. No matter how much they tax if spending is not under control it will never be enough.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And imagine what Obama is offering in exchange for those tax increases.
Part of it implemented in Budget Control Act, 2011. The rest is in the package that was delivered to your republican leadership at the same time, and continues to be. The question is, why aren't people like you aware of that?
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