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Old 11-07-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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Does anybody else find it interesting that a centerpiece of obama's campaign was change and that McCain at 72 was too old to get it? However, Barry's advisors that he is meeting today include Warren Buffett (78), Robert Rubin (72?) Paul Volcker (82).

Funny how little "change" change really is, isn't it?
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:48 AM
 
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Does anybody else find it interesting that a centerpiece of obama's campaign was change and that McCain at 72 was too old to get it? However, Barry's advisors that he is meeting today include Warren Buffett (78), Robert Rubin (72?) Paul Volcker (82).

Funny how little "change" change really is, isn't it?
So you noticed that too. The old guard from ages past coming to implement change. Obama said he would surround himself with the experience that he lacks. Seems that "experience" still means age. You really can't have one without the other. However, age often means 'set in one's ways'. Only the exceptional elder individual can make the transition to real change. We'll see if these people can make that transition, and work for the good of the country. Most politicians look out for themselves first.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:34 AM
 
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There's a huge difference between being in charge/making the decisions, and "asking the grey hairs for ADVICE.

Or would you prefer he do what Bush did and ask a bunch of neocons, with no understanding of history what to do, and then claim it was God's will?

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:46 AM
 
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Does anybody else find it interesting that a centerpiece of obama's campaign was change and that McCain at 72 was too old to get it? However, Barry's advisors that he is meeting today include Warren Buffett (78), Robert Rubin (72?) Paul Volcker (82).

Funny how little "change" change really is, isn't it?
I have mixed emotions about that... I campaigned against Obama and I am a member of Team Sarah! But if I was in Barack's position I would try to get experienced advisors as well! Just because he gets their advice does not always mean that he will follow it either!

Looking at the people he is interested in... this can also be a good thing!
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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It's smart to get advice from those with experience..President Obama will make the final decision..Should he have some high school kids advise him? The President's decision making will determine what changes will happen...The fact that he is consulting advisors is change from the "go it alone" Bush administration.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:09 PM
 
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It's smart to get advice from those with experience..President Obama will make the final decision..Should he have some high school kids advise him? The President's decision making will determine what changes will happen...The fact that he is consulting advisors is change from the "go it alone" Bush administration.
Reagan found the best people in every area he needed to make a decision on, regardless of party affiliation... Obama is accumulating advisors that are as radically left as he is.

There is a BIG difference! He IS making the same mistake George W. Bush made... Bush only listened to advisors that he personally knew and that were in his small circle of influence... If Mr. Obama only selects of like minded people he is going to go the same way as G.W. did.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:35 PM
 
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There's a huge difference between being in charge/making the decisions, and "asking the grey hairs for ADVICE.

Or would you prefer he do what Bush did and ask a bunch of neocons, with no understanding of history what to do, and then claim it was God's will?

golfgod
You should get over yourself. I didn't make any judgement, I simply stated a fact that we were inundated with McCain's age for the past year yet Obama is choosing advisors from the same generation. I happen to think Paul Volcker is one of the finest public servants we have ever had. Just wondering where the Obama generation of change is?
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:53 PM
 
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You should get over yourself. I didn't make any judgement, I simply stated a fact that we were inundated with McCain's age for the past year yet Obama is choosing advisors from the same generation. I happen to think Paul Volcker is one of the finest public servants we have ever had. Just wondering where the Obama generation of change is?


Seems tapping experience is change from what we had the last 8 years. well i am excluding the experience bush's group brought for self service first.

I have no problem with Obama tapping some of the most experienced minds in finance and business to get agrasp on a difficult situation. It is better than turning 700B over to wall street CEO's that caused the problem. It is my hope they will steer him in ways to control the 700B. As another pointed out an opinion is just that and he can choose to utilize it or another point of view.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:31 AM
 
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Does anybody else find it interesting that a centerpiece of obama's campaign was change and that McCain at 72 was too old to get it? However, Barry's advisors that he is meeting today include Warren Buffett (78), Robert Rubin (72?) Paul Volcker (82).

Funny how little "change" change really is, isn't it?
I was a little perplexed at this as well. he did bring back quite a few Clinton people to his administration as well.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:36 AM
 
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The whole premise of the OP is wrong. McCain's age only became a major concern when he picked an obviously unworthy runningmate. Even then, Obama and Biden never said McCain's age disqualified him from the job.

I voted for Mike Gravel in the primary, the oldest candidate on either side. Age is just a number.
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