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Old 02-26-2009, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trouble maker!



hehe
I thought we were going to stop arguing?

You're the one who responds to literally anything I say about gay marriage within what....2 minutes....
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Really, because gays are so much better right. I mean who wouldn't want some one like this to be able to marry and adopt a child.
The very, very vast majority of Gay people do not ever attend Gay pride parades nor dress like that. Do you seriously think that this is representative of the Gay population ? Are you really that ill informed ?

I suspect you meet Gay people every single day of your life at work and at leisure time , and have no inkling of it whatsoever because let's face it they look and sound just like you.... Shocking I know but that is the truth of it.

I have quite a few Gay friends and they would be extremely offended to be all bunched up together with more flamboyant Gay people which the media so loves.

Cliches are not only stupid they are at best ignorant as well as dangerous.

Gay people are like heterosexuals, they come in all shapes, colours, sizes and forms as well as lifestyles.


Most live among us, quietly , unseen and unheard. They are everywhere from the Marines to the Hollywood and Media set , including trades, white and blue collar jobs , banking industry, sports etc...

If you are truly worried about Children sensitivities and exposure to immorality, maybe you should start with all the over sexualisation of our modern society in the last couple of decades, pretty much all of it heterosexual.

There is far more dubious morality in one episode of "two and a half men" or "Sex in the City"
" then in 50 of " Q.u.e.e.r eye for the straight guy" or "Ellen".

Heterosexual behaviour is on the whole far more blatantly sexual than Gay sexual behaviour. I would say percentage-wise the Heteros are hardly a fab example of whiter than white moral behaviour.

If we are going to generalise people's behaviour, I am a woman therefore I must be a promiscuous s.l.u.t and wear low cut tops and short skirts whilst waiting to get laid at the week-ends after a bit too much booze in bars ?

After all those images are everywhere so it must mean that is the reality of being female ?

Wait a minute actually I dress really classically, never swear, not promiscuous in the slightest , never drink and all this despire being an Atheist on top of it !


And hetero men are all dogs who cheat on their wives/partners, and have the emotional intelligence of comatose earth-worms , beating up everyone who disagrees with them ?



A few Gay parades and hysterical media over blow is hardly representative of Gay lifestyles.


Gay porn for example may be a large industry but compared to hetero porn it is nothing. A mere drop in the ocean. An ocean of sexual deviancy dwarfing anything the Gay community could ever come up with.

Hetero sexual behaviour exhibits far more bizarre variants in many ways . Human sexuality has some seriously bizarre aspects and heteros certainly have the Lion's share.

And I would have thought even some people truly believe true that all Gay men are flamboyant camp people who spend every waking moment in tiny leather/PVC pouches rubbing baby oil over their bodies , then surely marriage and long term commitment would win the holier than thou crowds by emphasising long term commitment over promiscuous behaviour ?!

Marriage should be a good thing not something considered dirty.


Something just does not add up.


I don't know one Gay person who dresses flamboyantly .


All of the people I know ( and their acquaintances ) are all perfectly normal , decent human beings who work hard, want the best for their loved ones, and only want to be able to be who they are without some sanctimonious people telling them that their love is somehow wrong, immoral or deviant.

They lead quiet lives, go to the supermarket, mow their lawns , take their kids to Baseball games , go to the movies and eat out at restaurants. They fall in love the way we do, hate the way we do, and hurt the way we do.


In short they are humans just like us. No more and no less.



Just like everyone else. They are about as deviant as apple-pie.




I wish people would take of the blinkers and actually realise that there is another side to Homosexuality than Gay parades. The very vocal minority is giving a bad name to the very vast silent minority. The Media loves bright and shiny things ( it does after all distract us from the real issues in society such as poverty, domestic violence, war, slavery, lack of education, lack of access to healthcare etc...) and a tiny proportion of Gay people have played along and let the stereotypes flourish.

But nonetheless stereotypes is exactly what it is . A cliche. Not the truth.

As the saying goes : " Don't always believe everything that you think ".
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Homosexuality is immoral. I just can't support something that is immoral.

Aside from the financial implications with insurance, or care for foster kids/adoption, or even having to explain to my 7 year old that Mark and Todd are "married".
How hard can it be to tell a child, two people are in love with one another and they are married? I think it would be harder to explain to your seven year old that mommy and daddy are get divorced.
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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I keep hearing this talk about gay marriages being "forced" on other people. So, my question is, what the hell are you talking about?

How can you tell a married gay couple from an unmarried gay couple?

How will gay marriage affect your relationship with your spouse?

What exactly will happen to the universe as we know it if gays and lesbians get married?

How will you know that it happened?
Usually RINGS are the tell all(just kidding).I think the public makes way too much of this.The problem is that all the religious(Especially Christian)nuts jump all over this.People are born gay,so what if they prefer the same sex. It doesn't effect me and as long as they're good people,that's all that should matter.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I'm a little confused about you referring to my God as "YOUR god" if you go to church every Sunday....
What I mean is that not all Christians are in agreement - my church accepts gay people just as they are and doesn't view being gay as a sin. Other churches are quite the opposite. So my point is that one version of Christianity or any one religion shouldn't dictate law because we're a diverse population and we'll never agree on any one religion, or even one version of one religion.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What I mean is that not all Christians are in agreement - my church accepts gay people just as they are and doesn't view being gay as a sin. Other churches are quite the opposite. So my point is that one version of Christianity or any one religion shouldn't dictate law because we're a diverse population and we'll never agree on any one religion, or even one version of one religion.
Alright. I have my beliefs and you have yours. Let's leave it at that. I don't view being gay (the feelings/emotions) as a sin...but acting on those feelings as a sin.

And I do really hope that I didn't offend you at all. I never said you were a bad father (of course I have no idea) and I know you could be a great one...I just don't approve of having kids in unconvential situations.

And thanks for serving our country.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I keep hearing this talk about gay marriages being "forced" on other people. So, my question is, what the hell are you talking about?

How can you tell a married gay couple from an unmarried gay couple?

How will gay marriage affect your relationship with your spouse?

What exactly will happen to the universe as we know it if gays and lesbians get married?

How will you know that it happened?
You're asking us about it. That's what it has to do with us. Not to mention having to listen to pansies not so different from yourself whine about it all the time.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Makes no matter to me. It is a private situation and none of my, or your, concern.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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I thought we were going to stop arguing?

You're the one who responds to literally anything I say about gay marriage within what....2 minutes....
Buddy you are exaggerating, completely.. and you know this.

I was simply trying to lighten things up.

Guess you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.. my bad.

Won't happen again.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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Flamboyant gay men are cool. Please show concern and compassion for those that are unique.
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