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Here's a great bit of analysis by Gavin at Sadly, No! It captures the essence of what so many of us see here at C-D with the extremist right-wingers. In a way, his very insightful post is what I was trying to capture here. But he's smarter and funnier.
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...What we learn today from The Washington Times is that medical records must not be digitized as the Obama plan proposes, but can only exist in paper form because YOU KNOW WHO LIKED EFFICIENCY HITLER THAT'S WHO. And certainly, such naïve, Godwin-unaware amuse-gueules of instaHitler are in the category of always-funny. ...
But it’s also the case that these tantrums represent something different to the wingnut mind than to the clinically normal one. To the wingnut mind, or according to the wingnut assessment of what would shock and upset liberals (a nearly identical consideration), the notion of the totalitarian dictator naturally refers to Barack Obama, and to a chain of previous images of Obama-as-cult-leader, Obama-as-false-prophet, Obama-as-Manchurian-Candidate, as usurper, as dictator, as “chosen one,” as false Christ. “Imagine,” the editorial is saying, “If Obama could access our medical records. What would stop him from euthanizing the weak, the so-called ‘unfit,’ or the ‘politically incorrect?’”
It’s not that wingnuts literally believe such things (or care what happens to the weak). They don’t really believe anything in the ordinary sense of the term, but rather make instrumental, conditional use of certain kinds of beliefs, much in the way that other kinds of people make use of thrill sports or porn.
The attraction of extremist politics is that it allows its devotees to indulge irrational, basically infantile impulses; and while the American conservative movement has in a sense chained itself to the devil in becoming a willful gratifier of such impulses, it’s also the case that the wingnut type has no fundamental affinity for conservatism per se, and will switch to any flavor of extremism that will cater to its needs. Wingnuts only care about the drama.
The elements of the wingnut drama are outrage, spite, self-pity, and gloating; and any irresistible fact or narrative will hold the possibility of at least two of these, together or in sequence. They mix to form emotions of other unique and familiar character. Wingnuts derive a similar catharsis from these things to the one that normal people find in laughter. Many enter into a characteristic wide-mouthed ecstatic state when telling a string of whoppers. If you tell them that something they’re doing is troublesome to you, an inner process results whose outcome is that they compulsively do it more. Many who are homosexual think that campaigning against homosexuality helps balance things out. Wingnuts rarely realize that they’re wingnuts, and instead suspect liberals of exactly the things they’re trying to get away with.
This is exactly what is going on with all the birth certificate posts, all the "hateful, racist liberal" posts, all the other trivia that they post.
I'm not sure that the defect itself is correctly described, but in noting sentences such as If Obama could access our medical records, what would stop him from euthanizing the weak, the so-called unfit, or the politically incorrect? he has certainly got some of the symptoms down. Still, the guy's no Lewis Black...
Here's a great bit of analysis by Gavin at Sadly, No! It captures the essence of what so many of us see here at C-D with the extremist right-wingers. In a way, his very insightful post is what I was trying to capture here. But he's smarter and funnier.
This is exactly what is going on with all the birth certificate posts, all the "hateful, racist liberal" posts, all the other trivia that they post.
What do you think?
Medical records are and have been for many years kept via electronic means, locally. What we are talking about here is the Federal Government keeping your personal medical history on file.
I would think even you left wingers would be oposed to that, since you have always been interested in privacy.
Medical records are and have been for many years kept via electronic means, locally. What we are talking about here is the Federal Government keeping your personal medical history on file.
I would think even you left wingers would be oposed to that, since you have always been interested in privacy.
Why not get your facts straight?
You're arguing about a fact that isn't in my post, or in Gavin's.
Here's a great bit of analysis by Gavin at Sadly, No! It captures the essence of what so many of us see here at C-D with the extremist right-wingers. In a way, his very insightful post is what I was trying to capture here. But he's smarter and funnier.
This is exactly what is going on with all the birth certificate posts, all the "hateful, racist liberal" posts, all the other trivia that they post.
What do you think?
I'm not sure that I agree completely. I do notice that they avoid and ignore evidence, but I think that they are caught up in this belief of a grand scheme. What I mean is they seem to think that there is an attempt to control their lives buy the liberals. They seem to believe that the liberals control virtually everything so they only trust what backs what they already believe in.
It's a form of mental illness. And, in many cases--where Obama is concerned--a form of sublimated racism. The overdetermined, over-the-top hatred of Obama has no basis in logic. The wingnuts have been savaging him for over a year. During the campaign, Palin fed their paranoid fantasies, and they went totally loco as a result. The man has been President for less than one month, and the way they talk about him on this forum, you'd think he was the anti-Christ. They're insane.
It's a form of mental illness. And, in many cases--where Obama is concerned--a form of sublimated racism. The overdetermined, over-the-top hatred of Obama has no basis in logic. The wingnuts have been savaging him for over a year.
When it's not O it's the Clintons or Pelosi or Reid or the Clintons or Soros or the latest strawman dujour whipped up for the F#X right wing propagandists. But then what do you expect from gun fetishists, hate mongers and war mongers? They're not happy unless they're attacking someone or destroying something. They look or make up any pretext to vent their venom. And when you DARE question their lunacy you're an evil, liberal, socialist "America hater" because only they know what's right for America and they have a monopoly on patriotism.
Here's a great bit of analysis by Gavin at Sadly, No! It captures the essence of what so many of us see here at C-D with the extremist right-wingers. In a way, his very insightful post is what I was trying to capture here. But he's smarter and funnier.
This is exactly what is going on with all the birth certificate posts, all the "hateful, racist liberal" posts, all the other trivia that they post.
What do you think?
I think you're right. Yet they wet their pants if they're termed "fascists". Trying to clarify with them is futile, since most of them don't know their Left from their Right anyway.
You're arguing about a fact that isn't in my post, or in Gavin's.
Why not stay on topic?
And what IS your topic? That ONLY people who lean right politically can be extreme? Your vaunted left leanings cannot , by definition, be extreme? Left or right a wacko is a wacko. . Get a topic worth discussing and maybe we will talk.
It's a form of mental illness. And, in many cases--where Obama is concerned--a form of sublimated racism. The overdetermined, over-the-top hatred of Obama has no basis in logic. The wingnuts have been savaging him for over a year. During the campaign, Palin fed their paranoid fantasies, and they went totally loco as a result. The man has been President for less than one month, and the way they talk about him on this forum, you'd think he was the anti-Christ. They're insane.
Great post.
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Originally Posted by geos
When it's not O it's the Clintons or Pelosi or Reid or the Clintons or Soros or the latest strawman dujour whipped up for the F#X right wing propagandists. But then what do you expect from gun fetishists, hate mongers and war mongers? They're not happy unless they're attacking someone or destroying something. They look or make up any pretext to vent their venom. And when you DARE question their lunacy you're an evil, liberal, socialist "America hater" because only they know what's right for America and they have a monopoly on patriotism.
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Originally Posted by fatchance2005
I think you're right. Yet they wet their pants if they're termed "fascists". Trying to clarify with them is futile, since most of them don't know their Left from their Right anyway.
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. Get a topic worth discussing and maybe we will talk.
