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Old 02-19-2009, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Hopefully President Obama will see the good health system in Canada and use it to start designing a similar one here. The healthcare system in Canada is far superior to this one here and at less cost. Canadians like their system and would not trade it for ours in a billion years (you can go to the Canada board and ask them!). You can get the same prescription in Canada for half of what it cost here.
And the fact that NO Canadian politician advocates cutting or doing away with it is evidence of how good Heath/Sante Canada really is. Not even the current government of Stephen Harper, a Conservative, would touch it because it would mean political death.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:18 AM
 
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Hopefully President Obama will see the good health system in Canada and use it to start designing a similar one here. The healthcare system in Canada is far superior to this one here and at less cost. Canadians like their system and would not trade it for ours in a billion years (you can go to the Canada board and ask them!). You can get the same prescription in Canada for half of what it cost here.
And the fact that NO Canadian politician advocates cutting or doing away with it is evidence of how good Heath/Sante Canada really is. Not even the current government of Stephen Harper, a Conservative, would touch it because it would mean political death.


"Although the Canadian system has a good many benefits, it's not without its drawbacks. For example, medical equipment and facilities are very limited because of their cost, thus some Canadians must travel hundreds of miles for proper care, even if such travel threatens their condition. Also, the waiting lists even for common medical procedures can be quite lengthy (thus many wealthy Canadians cross the border into the United States for their health care). Finally, the Canadian system can have as little or less compassion as HMO's: it very clearly stipulates that elderly patients won't have access to certain costly but potentially life saving procedures such as renal dialysis."

HMO's
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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"Although the Canadian system has a good many benefits, it's not without its drawbacks. For example, medical equipment and facilities are very limited because of their cost, thus some Canadians must travel hundreds of miles for proper care, even if such travel threatens their condition. Also, the waiting lists even for common medical procedures can be quite lengthy (thus many wealthy Canadians cross the border into the United States for their health care). Finally, the Canadian system can have as little or less compassion as HMO's: it very clearly stipulates that elderly patients won't have access to certain costly but potentially life saving procedures such as renal dialysis."

HMO's
Some Americans also have to travel great distances on lousy roads for care. When my auntie in Del Rio Texas became ill, she was taken by ambulance almost 200 miles to San Antonio for hospital care. If you live in a populated metro area, you are closer to care. This is true everywhere. People in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal are closer to care than people in Yellowknife.
And while I agree that the clinical system does not have the "compassion" of the old family doctor system, it is the most efficient and less expensive way to deliever care. Remember that the point of the medical system is to make you well, not to deliver compassion.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Only a person totally ignorant of the Canadian Health Care System could believe such a thing. Their system is a mess - shortage of doctors (they go to the US), long wait times (months) for MRI's, surgeries, etc.

And very, very high taxes to pay for this insufficient system.

I lived in Canada for 4 years - I know.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Canadian health care system rocks so much that anyone with money comes to the U.S. for treatment. Woohoo! Let's implement it here!

Americans don't want nationalized health care. I take care of my own body, I'll pay for myself thank you and don't feel that I am responsible for paying for people who overeat or smoke.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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For every person that hates the Canadian healthcare system, there are about five others that love it. There are plenty of americans that have to travel great distances to get treatment, especially in rural areas. Canada is mostly rural so why would it be any different. There are as many people that leave the US to find treatment as come to the US to find treatment. Funny but they always leave that stuff out.

Odd that as much as people love to criticize the canadian healthcare system, Canadians still prefer it over the american systerm hands down.

Every system has its drawbacks. Noone has ever said that other countries healthcare systems are perfect but there is still much we can learn from them.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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For every person that hates the Canadian healthcare system, there are about five others that love it. There are plenty of americans that have to travel great distances to get treatment, especially in rural areas. Canada is mostly rural so why would it be any different. There are as many people that leave the US to find treatment as come to the US to find treatment. Funny but they always leave that stuff out.

Odd that as much as people love to criticize the canadian healthcare system, Canadians still prefer it over the american systerm hands down.

Every system has its drawbacks. Noone has ever said that other countries healthcare systems are perfect but there is still much we can learn from them.
If you're Canadian just pray to God you never need a hip replacement or any other treatment deemed non-essential.

The private sector runs EVERYTHING better than the government, health care included. You want your health care run like the US Post Office or Amtrak? Yikes!! You want to have to put your money in a big pot to pay for people who make irresponsible decisions about their health? Not I!
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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For every person that hates the Canadian healthcare system, there are about five others that love it. There are plenty of americans that have to travel great distances to get treatment, especially in rural areas. Canada is mostly rural so why would it be any different. There are as many people that leave the US to find treatment as come to the US to find treatment. Funny but they always leave that stuff out.

Odd that as much as people love to criticize the canadian healthcare system, Canadians still prefer it over the american systerm hands down.

Every system has its drawbacks. Noone has ever said that other countries healthcare systems are perfect but there is still much we can learn from them.
Most people like anything if they think it is free, even it isn't! But I do agree that we need to do something here, I just don't want the government involved...
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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Some Americans also have to travel great distances on lousy roads for care. When my auntie in Del Rio Texas became ill, she was taken by ambulance almost 200 miles to San Antonio for hospital care. If you live in a populated metro area, you are closer to care. This is true everywhere. People in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal are closer to care than people in Yellowknife.
And while I agree that the clinical system does not have the "compassion" of the old family doctor system, it is the most efficient and less expensive way to deliever care. Remember that the point of the medical system is to make you well, not to deliver compassion.
"Also, the waiting lists even for common medical procedures can be quite lengthy (thus many wealthy Canadians cross the border into the United States for their health care).
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:45 AM
 
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Hopefully President Obama will see the good health system in Canada and use it to start designing a similar one here. The healthcare system in Canada is far superior to this one here and at less cost. Canadians like their system and would not trade it for ours in a billion years (you can go to the Canada board and ask them!). You can get the same prescription in Canada for half of what it cost here.
And the fact that NO Canadian politician advocates cutting or doing away with it is evidence of how good Heath/Sante Canada really is. Not even the current government of Stephen Harper, a Conservative, would touch it because it would mean political death.

GST? Thanks, but no thanks!
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