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Old 02-28-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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End the Iraq war in 16 months?
oh and these little nuggets....

1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You’ll know what’s in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

He's a regular honest Abe..
He's ending the war in 19 months and having most withdrawn by 16. Whoooo.... horrible. He always kept open to the realities on the ground. That is wise.

1. Obama has taken enormous steps to making government more transparent and more collaborative. I have been nothing but impressed with his efforts.

2. What one defines as "pork" another defines as stimulus. Most who are open to the idea of any government spending (which you're not) feel it's a pretty balanced - if imperfect - stimulus package.

3. It has come out that Congressional Republicans voluntary withheld from participating in those meetings.

4. See above.

5. I don't know when he gave the 5 day clause (please cite credible sources when you make accusations), but it was pretty stupid that the congress rammed the bill through at midnight. I don't think Obama had any control over that, though. We're not a dictatorship.

6. The bill is posted online.

7. See above.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Larry Kudlow is still a supply sider economist. That's like saying he believes in a flat earth.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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The official national anthem of the new motherland:


YouTube - Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem

PS - in case you didn't recognize the tune, it's the national anthem of Russia
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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Default Fwiw

Pretty big jump in the amount a CEO get's paid compared to the average worker.... But it mostly happened in Clinton's term....





Share of wealth held by the Bottom 99% and Top 1% in the United States, 1922-1998.





Hey look the "rich" do make most of the jobs.



Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power sociology.ucsc.edu
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Pretty big jump in the amount a CEO get's paid compared to the average worker.... But it mostly happened in Clinton's term....

Share of wealth held by the Bottom 99% and Top 1% in the United States, 1922-1998.


Hey look the top 1% do make most of the jobs.

Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power

That's not an accurate statement. You could just as easily say that the top 1% own all the jobs--they may have bought those jobs not built them. How do you know which is the case from that data? BTW - The most wealthy tend to consolidate and maintain their wealth, not create and build up a lot of new enterprises. They typically want to buy income streams to maintain their wealth.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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When the U.S. government redistributes income from the middle class to the rich, that's capitalism.
Can you explain how this can happen?

When were the middle-class taxed, with that booty going directly to the rich?
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:51 PM
 
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The official national anthem of the new motherland:


YouTube - Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem

PS - in case you didn't recognize the tune, it's the national anthem of Russia
Beck is a Hack...
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by freedom View Post
End the Iraq war in 16 months?
oh and these little nuggets....

1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You’ll know what’s in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

He's a regular honest Abe..
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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He's ending the war in 19 months and having most withdrawn by 16. Whoooo.... horrible. He always kept open to the realities on the ground. That is wise.
Yet to be seen. And 50,000 left behind isn't ending conflict, it's keeping the bases operational for when we have to go back.

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1. Obama has taken enormous steps to making government more transparent and more collaborative. I have been nothing but impressed with his efforts.
So you had time to read that last round of legislation? 5 days to be exact?

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2. What one defines as "pork" another defines as stimulus. Most who are open to the idea of any government spending (which you're not) feel it's a pretty balanced - if imperfect - stimulus package.
Studying pig farts! Doesn't get anymore symbolic than that....

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3. It has come out that Congressional Republicans voluntary withheld from participating in those meetings.
Truth in advertising...

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4. See above.
Ditto
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5. I don't know when he gave the 5 day clause (please cite credible sources when you make accusations), but it was pretty stupid that the congress rammed the bill through at midnight. I don't think Obama had any control over that, though. We're not a dictatorship.
Google it! Really this one made me bust a gut... It should say We are not a dictatorship YET!!!
Right now it's just a blind RAT love fest of the chosen one...

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6. The bill is posted online.
AFTER the fact...

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7. See above.
ditto...
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Isn't it funny: When the U.S. government redistributes income from the middle class to the rich, that's capitalism. That's the "real America." But when we FINALLY get a President who redistributes income BACK to middle class, that's "socialism." That's the "end of America."

What crapola.
Did you get your first $13 dollars????

You did huh! Come on now... time to share it with the rest of us...
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