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The confederate flag is a great representative of states rights so I vote yes. Even better than flying the confederate battle flag is flying the first national flag of the confederacy. It was the official flag of the Confederate government, and is often flown here in the south. It stands for states rights, and it would serve as a reminder to our corrupt leaders in Washington that their is always another way we can deal with their unconstitutional behavior. The states only need to tolerate the runaway spending, the federal edicts on gay marriage(court rulings), wiretapping, spying on the internet, and the biggest federal power grab in decades (Obamacare) as long as they decide to tolerate it. Secession is the ultimate check on federal authority. Flying the confederate flag from the state capital would remind them of this fact. If our constitution is not respected, then the union itself is in jeopardy.
Those that followed the banner of the Confederate flag are treasonous traitors to their nation and are responsible for the deaths of 620,000 Americans. Another 1,000,000 seriously wounded. almost 20% of the entire population at the time.
We are "One Nation, Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Roughly 1,264,000 American soldiers have died in the nation's wars--620,000 in the Civil War and 644,000 in all other conflicts. It was only as recently as the Vietnam War that the amount of American deaths in foreign wars eclipsed the number who died in the Civil War.
I missed the part where the tenth amendment said it was cool to commit treason because you loved enslaving others so much.
Secession is NOT treason, it is the ultimate consequence of federal government breaking its agreements with the states otherwise know as the constitution. Also slavery existed in places other than the states of the Confederacy. In fact many a Yankee got rich in Boston in the slave trade. Just because the slaves were not picking cotton in the New England countryside does not mean New England folk did not profit greatly from trading slaves (prior to the ban on importation to US) or profit from the use of cheap cotton products from the cotton producing states. The civil war is so much more than what the northern history textbooks say it is. It is the story of the struggle between the states and New England federalism. The issue of state power vs federal power is alive and well today, and if we ever have another revolution or another civil war then it will likely be the result of this same old debate. The civil war did not forever resolve the issue of states rights. The states are beginning to assert their rights as they have not since the war, and one day the feds will go to far and some brave state governor will simply tell the feds "no". It may be an immigration issue in Texas, or a supreme court gay marriage ruling or it may be a federal law limiting our second amendment rights. One thing is for certain is that we are becoming more divided, red state vs blue is a very real divide.
I find it hilarious that people glorify the Confederacy for defending states rights when, in their very own constitution, they forbid any state from abolishing slavery.
Or - Should each State design a new Second Flag respecting its right to secede?
Independerate Flag?
Twenty-three Scidoo times two?
Please submit your designs to this thread.
Variations for each State will be welcome.
I don't have any designs to contribute but I certainly don't think it should be the Confederate flag. I would rather see it be the don't tread on me flag with the snake cut up into parts with each part labeled as a different state.
That flag expresses the same sentiment so far as the right of states to govern themselves is concerned without having any racist connotations.
Secession is NOT treason, it is the ultimate consequence of federal government breaking its agreements with the states otherwise know as the constitution. Also slavery existed in places other than the states of the Confederacy. In fact many a Yankee got rich in Boston in the slave trade. Just because the slaves were not picking cotton in the New England countryside does not mean New England folk did not profit greatly from trading slaves (prior to the ban on importation to US) or profit from the use of cheap cotton products from the cotton producing states. The civil war is so much more than what the northern history textbooks say it is. It is the story of the struggle between the states and New England federalism. The issue of state power vs federal power is alive and well today, and if we ever have another revolution or another civil war then it will likely be the result of this same old debate. The civil war did not forever resolve the issue of states rights. The states are beginning to assert their rights as they have not since the war, and one day the feds will go to far and some brave state governor will simply tell the feds "no". It may be an immigration issue in Texas, or a supreme court gay marriage ruling or it may be a federal law limiting our second amendment rights. One thing is for certain is that we are becoming more divided, red state vs blue is a very real divide.
It’s almost unbelievable the crap you read on the internet. To everyone with an ounce of intelligence, treason is “a betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country”. There’s no ambiguity, debate, or uncertainty about the actual “real” definition of treason. What the confederates did was in no doubt treason. Whether you believe it was the right thing to do or not is your prerogative. History has already passed judgment on these traitors so your opinion is clearly in the minority.
Regarding your statement about state power vs. federal power, I don’t see where anything of relevance is actually being debated at all today. There are clear divisions of power in government. The states have certain authority over jurisdiction in some areas while the federal government has others… If it comes down to it the federal government will in almost all cases have the final say…
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