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Autos have a value in society (getting folks from point A to point B) and the benefits outweights the risks. How is society benefitting from cigarette smoking?
But, that can be done with public transit as well. In fact, that improves social interactions between members of society. You're obviously a one-person, one car commuter because you seem to live in your own bubble. I think we should ban cars because even though it's more gratifying to get to a destination faster in your own vehicle, it's just not worth the risk to all the other citizens' air or our mother earth for YOUR convenience. In fact, we should make Earth Hour EVERY hour because we need to stop using fossil fuels to power our everyday lives. We need to return to a simpler time where we didn't buy materialistic crap, or use gasoline, electricity, or have vaccines that MIGHT cause that awful autism. Sure, we'll have a surge in plagues and diseases, but at least we reduced the risk of autism by .2% and now only 1 out of 126 kids get it instead of 1/125.
Oh, and our water shouldn't be treated anymore. Fluoridation and treatment are baaaaaad because fluoride causes mind control, according to some web site from one of those NWO believers. And, I say we bring back chastidy belts so people can't **** anymore. That will prevent the spread of diseases and pregnancy. Too many people in the world. Only CERTAIN folks, like those with my beliefs and intellectual ability, should have the right to procreate.
Navy showers only. You shant be using natures water for your own selfish purposes. Other folks need to drink that diseased water to survive, as well.
Obesity will be harshly punished. These fat asses are eating all the food, causing folks to starve. Africa shall no longer starve! Also, we won't have to pay for all the financial strains (approximately 1 billion trillion a year) placed on our insurance by obesity. However, insurance should be banned as well. Sure, it helps in times of crisis, but the risk that it might collapse (AIG anyone?) is just too great to keep it around. Banking? GONE! We can't risk bank runs with fractional reserves, so no new credit will be created. Everyone must carry their sacks of money around. It won't be gold or any other precious metal, though, for the children MIGHT bump their heads on it or use it as a weapon. Paper money can't be used... paper cuts. Perhaps a barter system should be put in place. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone to trade what you want(greed *****) or need(you're not the only one in need) with someone else who has said service/good. Just go on craigslist (oh, wait, that's banned because it encourages ****ing and uses electricity). Ok, ok, I've got it! Let's ban EVERYTHING, including those pesky colors (they make people feel... feeling stuff can't be good for a stable populace) and make a gentle humming noise! Yes, a peaceful world, a perfect world. I can see it come to fruition.
Wow, Connie - you are ALL OVER this thread. Let's see if we can figure out why...
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When waiting at a bus stop or walking down the street. Unless I can hold my breath or move away from the smoker, I am forced to breathe in the fumes.
But you just admitted that you can hold your breath or move away from the smoker, therefore, you are not being forced to breathe the smoke. That other person is partaking in a legal activity. You don't like it? Tough crap. Sorry, but them's the breaks. There's lots of things other people do that I don't like, so I avoid the situations that would expose me to them. That's how life works - nobody has any obligation whatsoever to not offend you...
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Originally Posted by msconnie73
Autos have a value in society (getting folks from point A to point B) and the benefits outweights the risks. How is society benefitting from cigarette smoking?
Irrelevant (and faulty logic, anyway). The simple fact - like it or not - is that auto exhaust is more harmful than cigarette smoke. But you're claiming that the harm caused is ok because cars "have a value in society." So I guess that the danger is somehow less dangerous because you feel it's a justified danger. See what I mean about faulty logic?
Let me know when you're going to push for banning automobiles. I'll grab some popcorn and watch the show.
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I personally think this country would be a better place if we did not have the selfishness of the smokers polluting our air.
I personally think this country would be a better place if we did not have the selfishness of the non-smokers infringing on our personal freedoms because "cigarettes are icky."
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I'm with ya! Or minimize it to it's constitutionally-mandated functions. Let's cut the fluff!
Great idea! You realize that you just made an argument against smoking bans, right?
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I know someone who died from lung cancer and she smoked like a chimney.
Ahh, now we come to why you're all over this thread. The death of the person you knew is truly a sad thing. I'm sure it wasn't a pleasant way to go, and I hope it wasn't anyone you were very close to. That said, I think that because of this, you're totally unable to look at the issue of second hand smoke objectively. It's an impossibility. It's unfortunate that you're so close minded and unwilling to see the propaganda for what it is, but I understand why that's the case.
Do you know what ingredients you are inhaling in your body? Be grateful that you are not suffering NOW but that CAN change if you keep inhaling those harmful chemicals. I know someone who died from lung cancer and she smoked like a chimney. It's your body and you have the rights to do as you please BUT you DO NOT have the right to pollute the air of those who had made wiser choices.
I know two people who died from lung cancer and they DID NOT smoke. So, what is your point?
Wow, Connie - you are ALL OVER this thread. Let's see if we can figure out why...
But you just admitted that you can hold your breath or move away from the smoker, therefore, you are not being forced to breathe the smoke. That other person is partaking in a legal activity. You don't like it? Tough crap. Sorry, but them's the breaks. There's lots of things other people do that I don't like, so I avoid the situations that would expose me to them. That's how life works - nobody has any obligation whatsoever to not offend you...
Irrelevant (and faulty logic, anyway). The simple fact - like it or not - is that auto exhaust is more harmful than cigarette smoke. But you're claiming that the harm caused is ok because cars "have a value in society." So I guess that the danger is somehow less dangerous because you feel it's a justified danger. See what I mean about faulty logic?
Let me know when you're going to push for banning automobiles. I'll grab some popcorn and watch the show.
I personally think this country would be a better place if we did not have the selfishness of the non-smokers infringing on our personal freedoms because "cigarettes are icky."
Great idea! You realize that you just made an argument against smoking bans, right?
Ahh, now we come to why you're all over this thread. The death of the person you knew is truly a sad thing. I'm sure it wasn't a pleasant way to go, and I hope it wasn't anyone you were very close to. That said, I think that because of this, you're totally unable to look at the issue of second hand smoke objectively. It's an impossibility. It's unfortunate that you're so close minded and unwilling to see the propaganda for what it is, but I understand why that's the case.
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But, that can be done with public transit as well. In fact, that improves social interactions between members of society. You're obviously a one-person, one car commuter because you seem to live in your own bubble. I think we should ban cars because even though it's more gratifying to get to a destination faster in your own vehicle, it's just not worth the risk to all the other citizens' air or our mother earth for YOUR convenience. In fact, we should make Earth Hour EVERY hour because we need to stop using fossil fuels to power our everyday lives. We need to return to a simpler time where we didn't buy materialistic crap, or use gasoline, electricity, or have vaccines that MIGHT cause that awful autism. Sure, we'll have a surge in plagues and diseases, but at least we reduced the risk of autism by .2% and now only 1 out of 126 kids get it instead of 1/125.
Oh, and our water shouldn't be treated anymore. Fluoridation and treatment are baaaaaad because fluoride causes mind control, according to some web site from one of those NWO believers. And, I say we bring back chastidy belts so people can't **** anymore. That will prevent the spread of diseases and pregnancy. Too many people in the world. Only CERTAIN folks, like those with my beliefs and intellectual ability, should have the right to procreate.
Navy showers only. You shant be using natures water for your own selfish purposes. Other folks need to drink that diseased water to survive, as well.
Obesity will be harshly punished. These fat asses are eating all the food, causing folks to starve. Africa shall no longer starve! Also, we won't have to pay for all the financial strains (approximately 1 billion trillion a year) placed on our insurance by obesity. However, insurance should be banned as well. Sure, it helps in times of crisis, but the risk that it might collapse (AIG anyone?) is just too great to keep it around. Banking? GONE! We can't risk bank runs with fractional reserves, so no new credit will be created. Everyone must carry their sacks of money around. It won't be gold or any other precious metal, though, for the children MIGHT bump their heads on it or use it as a weapon. Paper money can't be used... paper cuts. Perhaps a barter system should be put in place. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone to trade what you want(greed *****) or need(you're not the only one in need) with someone else who has said service/good. Just go on craigslist (oh, wait, that's banned because it encourages ****ing and uses electricity). Ok, ok, I've got it! Let's ban EVERYTHING, including those pesky colors (they make people feel... feeling stuff can't be good for a stable populace) and make a gentle humming noise! Yes, a peaceful world, a perfect world. I can see it come to fruition.
Actually, I don't have a driver's license so I rely on public transportation which makes your first paragraph is totally off base. Although I don't have my own personal vehicle, I do recognize the benefits of owning a vehicle, particulary if you live in a area that isn't well serviced by public transportation. Since I utilize public transportation, I come into frequent contact with secondhand smoke due to inconsiderate smokers waiting at the bus stop. Whenever smokers sit next to me on a bus, I have to endure the stench of the aftermath of their cigarette which clings to their clothes.
I won't even address the points in the rest of your post full of mindless, cigarette-induced rantings as this would deviate from the topic at hand, which is "Let's stick it to the smokers". Obviously, your smoking habit is turning you into a stark-raving mad person who is in dire need of professional help. I honestly think that you need to quit running around in circles and lay off those smokies, OK?
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Wow, Connie - you are ALL OVER this thread. Let's see if we can figure out why...
But you just admitted that you can hold your breath or move away from the smoker, therefore, you are not being forced to breathe the smoke. That other person is partaking in a legal activity. You don't like it? Tough crap. Sorry, but them's the breaks. There's lots of things other people do that I don't like, so I avoid the situations that would expose me to them. That's how life works - nobody has any obligation whatsoever to not offend you...
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It is not always possible to avoid smokers although I make every effort to do so. You can only hold your breath for so long. When you are waiting at a bus stop and someone next to you lights up, there are limited places for me to go as I need to wait for a bus.
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