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Old 04-01-2009, 10:32 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another?

And, if that person does not peaceably submit to being so used, do you believe that there should be the initiation of some kind of force against him?

Simple yes or no.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Yes.

Ever heard of the military?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:35 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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How does that apply?

Are you stating that you think it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another,and, if that person does not peaceably submit to being so used, do you believe that there should be the initiation of some kind of force against him?
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Yes.

Pay your taxes, or they'll come for you.

How about you tell us what your after, instead of trying to set a trap or something.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Are you stating that you think it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another,and, if that person does not peaceably submit to being so used, do you believe that there should be the initiation of some kind of force against him?
No, but in some situations it is acceptable. The military being the only instance I can think of off the top of my head. If you do not establish a chain of command and punishment for insubordination, there is no coherence to the system, and the structure fails - Not exactly something you would want on the battlefield.

That example aside, what about your boss asking you to work for someone else temporarily, or else be fired? Is that what you are getting at? In most applications of your question, 'morality' is not involved. I suppose the exception would be slavery?

But what do I know, its late and I am tired..
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:06 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Yes.

Pay your taxes, or they'll come for you.

How about you tell us what your after, instead of trying to set a trap or something.
LOL.....

You DO realise you have stated slavery is moral and just....
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:07 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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No, but in some situations it is acceptable. The military being the only instance I can think of off the top of my head. If you do not establish a chain of command and punishment for insubordination, there is no coherence to the system, and the structure fails - Not exactly something you would want on the battlefield.

That example aside, what about your boss asking you to work for someone else temporarily, or else be fired? Is that what you are getting at? In most applications of your question, 'morality' is not involved. I suppose the exception would be slavery?

But what do I know, its late and I am tired..
Why would it be acceptable at all???
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:11 PM
 
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Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another?

And, if that person does not peaceably submit to being so used, do you believe that there should be the initiation of some kind of force against him?

Simple yes or no.

OH God! Is this one of those simpleton anti-tax questions?? Where if I say No, you say then how are taxes moral?????

It's a Gotcha question right?
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:13 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It has been quite interesting so far....amazing how posters of a particular ideology seem to believe so strongly in forcing others to do their bidding.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Do you believe that it is moral and just for one person to be forcibly used to serve the purposes of another?

And, if that person does not peaceably submit to being so used, do you believe that there should be the initiation of some kind of force against him?

Simple yes or no.
Don't various religions require one to accept God, Allah, Jesus, etc. or risk going to that hot place downstairs? Isn't that the deal...obey or go to the basement?
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