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Old 04-15-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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Stephanopolous is right wing?
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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IF you choose to read what was given as the reasons,removing Saddam was one,as was the threat of WMDs....google it and see....

As to the actual topic,it is of course because the war and the body count is no longer needed to stir up opposition so it is unimportant.
The main thrust of the administration was removal of WMDs. Removal of a dictator by itself would not sell because there were many others around - including ones we supported. The outrage about not having body count is phony since not finding WMDs - despite losing thousands of lives - is now ok. Oz, methinks we will continue to disagree on these points.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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Things were calm during the election too! The liberal MSM's were hot and heavy for the count everyday.
They were also hot and heavy on the plumber, the economy, on acorn etc etc. BUT does is not bother you that we went to war, lost thousands of lives, lost $700 billion and counting, and there are no WMDs? I would think this would be higher up on the radar screen than commenting on the media not counting deaths when things are calmer and economy has almost gone bust.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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The premise of this thread is A COMPLETE LIE, COMPLETE LIE. A lie so vile has to be named twice.

AFAIK there NEVER was a "nightly/weekly" body count, and for much of the war I pretty regularly watched the 6:00PM news, rotating among the "big 3". However, every Friday night on "Newshour" (formerly "McNeil-Lehrer") on PBS, and every Sunday morning on ABC "This Week" (George Stephanopolous) they have ALWAYS and continue to honor those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

PBS announces the names with pictures, if they've been provided by families, ABC, just shows name, rank, service affiliation and hometown.

The fact that the OP would start this shows the complete bankruptcy of the right wing. Back when we were losing 100 men and women a month FOX NEWS (a partially owned subsidiary of the Bush White House-or vice verse) probably NEVER ANNOUNCED HOW MANY WERE BEING KILLED. I surmise this because a couple of times in discussion with friends who get all their news from Fox, they insisted that only "a dozen or so per month" Americans were being killed in war zones.

Start an honest thread sometime.
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The main thrust of the administration was removal of WMDs. Removal of a dictator by itself would not sell because there were many others around - including ones we supported. The outrage about not having body count is phony since not finding WMDs - despite losing thousands of lives - is now ok. Oz, methinks we will continue to disagree on these points.
Of course we will,you have an agenda and do not want anything getting in the way of it...such as actual facts.

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President's Radio Address



THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. American and coalition forces have begun a concerted campaign against the regime of Saddam Hussein. In this war, our coalition is broad, more than 40 countries from across the globe. Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.
President Discusses Beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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The premise of this thread is A COMPLETE LIE, COMPLETE LIE. A lie so vile has to be named twice.

AFAIK there NEVER was a "nightly/weekly" body count, and for much of the war I pretty regularly watched the 6:00PM news, rotating among the "big 3". However, every Friday night on "Newshour" (formerly "McNeil-Lehrer") on PBS, and every Sunday morning on ABC "This Week" (George Stephanopolous) they have ALWAYS and continue to honor those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

PBS announces the names with pictures, if they've been provided by families, ABC, just shows name, rank, service affiliation and hometown.

The fact that the OP would start this shows the complete bankruptcy of the right wing. Back when we were losing 100 men and women a month FOX NEWS (a partially owned subsidiary of the Bush White House-or vice verse) probably NEVER ANNOUNCED HOW MANY WERE BEING KILLED. I surmise this because a couple of times in discussion with friends who get all their news from Fox, they insisted that only "a dozen or so per month" Americans were being killed in war zones.

Start an honest thread sometime.
golfgod

Could you provide links to ABC,NBC,CBS or any major newspaper article covering this in the last week?
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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Of course we will,you have an agenda and do not want anything getting in the way of it...such as actual facts.

President's Radio Address



THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. American and coalition forces have begun a concerted campaign against the regime of Saddam Hussein. In this war, our coalition is broad, more than 40 countries from across the globe. Our cause is just, the security of the nations we serve and the peace of the world. And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.


President Discusses Beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom
So, where are the WMDs - the #1 reason? Recall, Powell showed photos in UN - WMDs were the reason we went in. Again, remember, Korea and iran were also similar regimes - they could also use democracy and us lessening their support of terrorism. What supposedly differentiated Iraq was the WMD threat was more imminent. Do you want quotes about us being greeted with flowers, about mission accomplished, about how we want to get the initially non-existent Iraqi AQueda, etc? The outrage about no media counts of bodies is completely phony.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:11 AM
 
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oz in SC asked me;
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Could you provide links to ABC,NBC,CBS or any major newspaper article covering this in the last week?
I don't know how to link to TV stories, sorry. However, check out PBs during the last 20 minutes or so this Friday night, same thing with "This Week" on Sunday morning. During the last 20 minutes or so they do a "In Memoriam" segment where they mention, and show clips of noted authors, actors, politicians and others who have passed and then say, "The Pentagon this week released the names of XX soldiers and sailors who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan". They then show the name, rank, affiliation and hometown in groups of three.

They've both been doing this since the war(s) began. I can't speak for the nightly newscasts because for that I go PBS and then local stations. Local stations always mention, and when I lived in a small town the (50 miles away) stations covered the family, the honoring of the hearse as it passed through town and interviewed family and classmates of the deceased.

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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They were also hot and heavy on the plumber, the economy, on acorn etc etc. BUT does is not bother you that we went to war, lost thousands of lives, lost $700 billion and counting, and there are no WMDs? I would think this would be higher up on the radar screen than commenting on the media not counting deaths when things are calmer and economy has almost gone bust.
The short term memory about this is is just amazing. ***** to your elected officials who voted for it. Don't vote them back into office as they voted for it and passed it!!!!
Start with
BILL CLINTON late 90's) who said he needed to be stopped because of WMD
Margaret thatcher
REID
HILLARY
EDWARDS
PELOSI
and a host of other Democrats who voted for it and wanted him stopped!
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So, where are the WMDs - the #1 reason? Recall, Powell showed photos in UN - WMDs were the reason we went in. Again, remember, Korea and iran were also similar regimes - they could also use democracy and us lessening their support of terrorism. What supposedly differentiated Iraq was the WMD threat was more imminent. Do you want quotes about us being greeted with flowers, about mission accomplished, about how we want to get the initially non-existent Iraqi AQueda, etc? The outrage about no media counts of bodies is completely phony.
WMDs were one reason of three....

The 'outrage' over the war dead was phony it is true....most on the left care nothing now about how many are killed as the dead are no longer needed as a divisive issue,their guy is in power.
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