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Obama is saying that this kind of talk needs to be toned down. I wish he would tell his supporters that. They are the ones doing most of it.
I have noticed that there is a lot of disrespectful talk about our founding fathers. I think that is racism. I am not concerned about it though. When a person builds a trap they end up falling into it.
Remember the first Willy Wonka movie? When each kid would start to do something that ultimately got them in trouble, and Gene Wilder would calmly say "no, stop, don't" in a whisper they couldn't hear. That reminds me of Obama, he isn't saying anything with conviction or loud enough for anyone to hear. He's been doing this throughout his tenure, saying one thing and meaning another.
I live in a racially mixed area of South LA and I've had more black guys throw racial slurs at me then I ever did in the 60s and early 70s when they might have had better reasons for doing so.
EXP: Being told to "move, you F'n white boy" as I was reading labels on cold medicine in the aisle of the supermarket. A black guy with his GF rolled their cart to within inches of me and then he spouted off his nonsense. He felt the need to direct a racial slur towards an obviously non-aggressive white in public.
He was in his mid 20s making him too young to have lived though the riots of the 60s and just a young boy during the Rodney King uprising. Young blacks are finding it easy to direct hate towards whites these days. There are so many well versed racists from the 60s/70s who will never have anything but hate for whites, and then all of the white apologists who hate themselves while wishing they were black or brown or anything, but white. Why do you think the "NEW Black Panthers" have reared their ugly heads? They have nothing in common with the original Black Panthers other than who they direct their hate towards, and certainly with much less reason for doing so.
Strange times... the field has never been more level yet racism the other way is increasing and then justified by calling up the past.
All races and people are facing some type of discremination, including racism. However,
whites remain by and large in power in the political and business world. You cannot deny that institutionalized racism has had its effects and it's a whole lot more damaging than discremination "on the street".
Not that I don't believe you, but you didn't provide a link. I saw this list on facebook recently and just want to be sure it's not the same thing.
Open members of the CPC who are also listed on the DSA website:
Congressional Progressive Caucus (http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?ContentID=166&ParentID=0&SectionID=4&Sec tionTree=4&lnk=b&ItemID=164 - broken link)
If you do enough research it's fairly easy to connect the dots. Just one website isn't enough to get the entire picture. There's not enough room for me to list all the websites that I've researched, but this is a decent start.
All races and people are facing some type of discremination, including racism. However,
whites remain by and large in power in the political and business world. You cannot deny that institutionalized racism has had its effects and it's a whole lot more damaging than discremination "on the street".
There is no racism at the top, it's all about class. To justify racism on the street because more whites are at the top shows an utter lack of understanding and plays into the hands of the people who really control things.
Political? Let's see, our president is black, so is our attorney general, Charles Rangel who chaired ways and means. There are a long lists of powerful blacks who were or are in powerful positions: Mickey Leland,Togo West,Colin Powell,Joycelyn Elders,Hazel O'Leary,Ron Brown,Willie Brown,Harold Washington,Doug Wilder,Harold Ford,Shirley Chisom,Condi Rice,Edward Brooke,Michael Steele... but let's pull back from this for a minute. The point is there are less reasons for racsim "on the street or in the board room" than at any other time in the history of this nation.
So why are progressives continuing to fabricate racism? Show me proof of institutionalized racism. Give me unbiased links to white papers proving it exists.
There is no racism at the top, it's all about class. To justify racism on the street because more whites are at the top shows an utter lack of understanding and plays into the hands of the people who really control things.
Political? Let's see, our president is black, so is our attorney general, Charles Rangel who chaired ways and means. There are a long lists of powerful blacks who were or are in powerful positions: Mickey Leland,Togo West,Colin Powell,Joycelyn Elders,Hazel O'Leary,Ron Brown,Willie Brown,Harold Washington,Doug Wilder,Harold Ford,Shirley Chisom,Condi Rice,Edward Brooke,Michael Steele... but let's pull back from this for a minute. The point is there are less reasons for racsim "on the street or in the board room" than at any other time in the history of this nation.
So why are progressives continuing to fabricate racism? Show me proof of institutionalized racism. Give me unbiased links to white papers proving it exists.
Why so defensive? I didn't claim that institutionalized racism still exists today. Though one could argue that it does but that's not a debate I'm going to have.
But we know for sure it existed not that long ago. Do you deny this? Whether you like it or not it has had it's effects that are still very apparent even after decades. Like you said, it's all about class, and past instutionalized racism will make you start at the very bottom of the ladder.
Now while you average poor or middle class person has chances of having success (the US president being a good example), priviledged people usually have better chances and fare better as a group. It works the same with rich families vs poor ones. The former usually do better as a group than the latter.
Your examples of powerful black people point to signs of improvement and that instituionalized racism probably no longer exists or is at least, a lot less rampant. I like to think it is the case, though like I said, that is still up for debate.
But you don't erase a long history of racism, sexism, whateverism within a couple of generations. Wether you like it or not, white men remain priviledged. I am one and I have no problem in admitting that.
Guess what? It's not minorities that have benefitted most from Affirmative Action. It's been WHITE women. Here's a link to an article that explains this: Who wins out when it comes to affirmative action?
As for the NFL, just because they want to be inclusive, regarding interviewing more blacks, doesn't make the NFL racist against whites. And firefighting has traditionally been a bastian of white males. If more women and minorities are recruited for firefighting jobs these days, so what. If that's what it takes to make firefighting (and other professions) more diverse, that's still not racism against whites.
It doesn't matter who benefits the most or least the law says you cannot discriminate. When you pass rules/laws saying you HAVE TO interview blacks is discrimination..
I also think it is wrong that companies are forced to have special programs to recruit minorities.
If a company has a job openning they usually advertise in the newspaper or trade joutnals, on line, whatever. ALL people who think they qualify for that job have an EQUAL oppertunity to apply. Ant special program to after a minority is discrimination.
Same with colleges. To specify a particular race is discrimonation.
Even if a minority DID get a job due to Affirmative action, they still have to prove that they can stay in their job, by performing it well. As I've said repeatedly, Affirmative action has been benefitting mostly white women, rather than minorities anyway. Here's a link to an article, that shows why: Who wins out when it comes to affirmative action?
Many of you white males, think that just because efforts are made to include more women and minorities in jobs, that they've suddenly taken over the workplace. Well if that were true, then why is the unemployment rate for blacks, still almost twice as high, as it is for whites???
Typical. When proven wrong move the goalposts. This post is about white being discriminated against. if a minority gets a job because they are a minority that is discrimination. No other way around it.
You need todso some research before you make blanket statements. The main reason more blacks are unemployed is because 60 to 70% drop out of high school making them unemployable.
Yes I am. But not all blacks are undereducated. And if they are, the fault lies with the inferior public schools, that many poorer blacks are forced to attend.
Oh, you mean the schools in inner cities that used to be run by whites and now have been run by blacks for years? So enlighten us why are they inferior now when they weren't when run by whites?
Why so defensive? I didn't claim that institutionalized racism still exists today. Though one could argue that it does but that's not a debate I'm going to have.
But you don't erase a long history of racism, sexism, whateverism within a couple of generations. Wether you like it or not, white men remain priviledged. I am one and I have no problem in admitting that.
You make good points and I agree to some extent.
Don't confuse defense with questioning. I was raised to believe that racism has no place in my life as was everyone I grew up with. To be called a racist simply for the color of my skin is rediculous. It can be argued that the majority of people who have given their lives for equality are white. It's also a fact there are more whites in the US below poverty levels than all other races combined.
Why can't the sins of the fathers be forgiven in a generation? It's one thing to remember our mistakes, but quite another to hang on to them. Don't we have more pressing issues to resolve than rehashing things that used to be.
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