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Old 04-09-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Frieda Kahlo (1907-1954) Mexican Artist and Activist---was married to a man...

Thanks though
That may be (or have been) but what better way to 'hide' one's homosexuality than with a heterosexual marriage? Or do you not understand that that is why, even now, we have married men and women "coming out" as gay/lesbian after 10, 15, 20 and even 30 year marriages?
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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God destoryed the cities because it was wrong and a man couldn't convince them otherwise.
Sodomites in the Bible are not Homosexuals!

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I agree Bible passages are taken out of context, but what does pornography have to do with it?
Anti gay folks love to say how unnatural anal sex is between two men yet it's pretty much accepted in the straight community. Straight porn sites have a ton of male on female anal videos. Huge double standard. If anal and oral sex are a sin, then admit it's in both communities. Straight anti gay folks can't admit they are being sinners of the same degree if they are partaking in either activity (or having sex outside of making babies). Don't be a hypocrite and accept it in one community but not the other.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Leviticus 18:22 is what everyone's been hearing, but the "Sodom and Gamorrah (spelling error??) story tells us it is a sin.

Just whichever one is which, Sodomy was homosexuals and Gamorrah masterbation, maybe vice versa?)
How about neither? To understand the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, you need to read Ezekiel 16:49
49 - Behold, this is the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread and abundance of idleness was in her and her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Even reading several verses before and after that one, there is no mention whatsoever of ANY 'sexual sin'. They were selfish and lazy and they treated visitors like crap. But they were NOT homosexual or 'masterbaters'.
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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I grew up in a society where some of the teens I was in school with would set up "gay bashing parties" and go hunting. The local cops did nothing about it. I experienced gay bashing even though I am not attracted to men.
I am familiar with like issues myself, though it was not "gay bashing", rather "nerd or loser bashing" to which we had to contest with. There has always been thugs of this nature, the target of their behavior is simply an excuse to do what they were going to do anyway. /shrug
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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Sodomites in the Bible are not Homosexuals!



Anti gay folks love to say how unnatural anal sex is between two men yet it's pretty much accepted in the straight community. Straight porn sites have a ton of male on female anal videos. Huge double standard. If anal and oral sex are a sin, then admit it's in both communities. Straight anti gay folks can't admit they are being sinners of the same degree if they are partaking in either activity (or having sex outside of making babies). Don't be a hypocrite and accept it in one community but not the other.
So your assessment of the heterosexual communities habits is to use pornography as evidence? That community is not an accurate representation of heterosexual behavior.

The thought of placing ones appendage in an area that is used as waste disposal is rather disturbing. While there may be some that find such appealing, do not assume that most do.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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So your assessment of the heterosexual communities habits is to use pornography as evidence? That community is not an accurate representation of heterosexual behavior.

The thought of placing ones appendage in an area that is used as waste disposal is rather disturbing. While there may be some that find such appealing, do not assume that most do.
No, it was an example of the bigger whole. The majority of the anti gay crowd are hypocrites because they are doing a whole bunch of sinning in their lives. It's picking and choosing what to believe in the bible. Plus the straight anal sex videos usually get the most amount of visits on adult sites. I'd wager a bet that most straight men would be all for having anal sex with their female companion if she would agree to it. Once again, it's just being hypocritical.

Adultery is widely accepted and practiced without much of anything being said about it. Divorced folks are remarried in the church and it's widely accepted. People masturbate and not much is said about it. What straight person hasn't had sex outside of a marriage? All are prohibited according to the bible.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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So we all agree people take the Bible out of context, and people need to stop sinning, and we'd have less problems easily....

That site is BS too. We don't know the locations, can only guess.
I'll get back to you on a better link
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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No, it was an example of the bigger whole. The majority of the anti gay crowd are hypocrites because they are doing a whole bunch of sinning in their lives. It's picking and choosing what to believe in the bible. Plus the straight anal sex videos usually get the most amount of visits on adult sites. I'd wager a bet that most straight men would be all for having anal sex with their female companion if she would agree to it. Once again, it's just being hypocritical.

Adultery is widely accepted and practiced without much of anything being said about it. Divorced folks are remarried in the church and it's widely accepted. People masturbate and not much is said about it. What straight person hasn't had sex outside of a marriage? All are prohibited according to the bible.
Occurrence and acceptance are two different things. Everyone sins, yet a person who commits a sin does not mean they accept it or condone it. People fall to temptation, but in no way does this mean it is accepted. If you think nobody says anything about adultery being wrong, then you are ignoring the facts to promote a concept. Also, you speak in generalized terms, allowing occurrence of an action and the acceptance of it to be represented by everyone when this is false.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:19 PM
 
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Occurrence and acceptance are two different things. Everyone sins, yet a person who commits a sin does not mean they accept it or condone it. People fall to temptation, but in no way does this mean it is accepted. If you think nobody says anything about adultery being wrong, then you are ignoring the facts to promote a concept. Also, you speak in generalized terms, allowing occurrence of an action and the acceptance of it to be represented by everyone when this is false.
Isn't the church remarrying divorced individuals, many that have committed adultery, condoning the behavior? They do it over, and over, and over again. Why condone one and condemn the other? Both should be condemned or both should be accepted....not a split.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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Isn't the church remarrying divorced individuals, many that have committed adultery, condoning the behavior? They do it over, and over, and over again. Why condone one and condemn the other? Both should be condemned or both should be accepted....not a split.

When you say "The Church", what do you mean?

There isn't one big umbrella of authority in terms of doctrine and so naturally, the actions of these do not represent all. Their actions do not negate the issue, it merely negates them.
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