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Old 05-09-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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The Political Carnival: Bill Maher- There Is An Evangelical Cancer In The Military

I was surprised to find that our tax paying dollars are being used to preach christianity to muslims. There was a similar thread in the Religion section about Afghanistan. This video claims the evangelical efforts are broader and include Iraq also. To me, this is scary. I think we need to keep religion/ agnostism/atheism out of the army, else we are in the danger of percieved to be fighting modern-day crusades. Such efforts destroy our credibility as a nation and we appear to others to be no different than the Taliban.

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Old 05-09-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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I personally do not think evangelicals should be allowed in the military. Anyone who embraces a nihilistc religion should be barred from firearms. Period.
Since that is not likely to happen, then any service member caught trying to convert anyone should be automatically dishonorably discharged. After all, you don't have to be a muslim to be a fanatic.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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I personally do not think evangelicals should be allowed in the military. Anyone who embraces a nihilistc religion should be barred from firearms. Period.
Since that is not likely to happen, then any service member caught trying to convert anyone should be automatically dishonorably discharged. After all, you don't have to be a muslim to be a fanatic.
Completely agree! Last I checked, we were not a theocracy.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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I'll take it one step further ban evangelicals from this country.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Lower Paxton, PA
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This is disturbing. I'm completely against it.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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I'll take it one step further ban evangelicals from this country.
Don't you think statements like that make you sound just as extreme as the people you're against?
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:59 PM
 
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I think the evangelicals are not stupid - they know they are pushing the boundaries. Yet, they cannot seem to pass us abusing the system because of their hardheadedness and superiority complex. Someone ought to sue the churches involved - their illegal "missions" are doing a lot of damage to the money we all are spending in the war.

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Army Says it Confiscated Afghan Bibles


In other footage captured at Bagram, Sergeant Jon Watt, a Soldier set to become a military chaplain, said during a Bible study class: "I also want to praise God because my church collected some money to get bibles for Afghanistan. They came and sent the money out."

U.S. military regulations expressly forbid "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice".
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Once again...IT's freedom OF Religion not FROM Religion........
Without Evangelicals you wouldn't have much of a Military...But it seems many of you would just as soon eradicate Religion period......


Welcome to Military Religious Freedom Foundation


All branches of the United States military are afforded the same rights to religious freedom as are American civilians. However, members of the Armed Forces willingly surrender on a temporary basis certain free exercise rights when it impinges on military discipline and the successful completion of a military objective. This guarantee of religious freedom is codified for the Armed Forces in Title 10, United States Code (USC), sections 3073, 3547, 5142, and 8067. Free exercise of religious freedom for military personnel is further detailed in Department of Defense Directive (DODD) 1300.17, “Accommodation of Religious Practices Within the Military Services,” which describes the commander’s responsibility to provide for religious accommodation.
Codes and directives notwithstanding, the free exercise of religious freedom in the military has, by and large, followed the mores of American society in general. That is, as the understanding of free exercise expanded outside the military, so did it expand within the U.S. Armed Forces. This history of the growing embrace of religious pluralism can perhaps best be seen in the expansion of the Chaplaincy, whose role it is to provide for the free expression of religious belief by members of the Armed Forces.
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Old 05-09-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: America's heartland
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I'll take it one step further ban evangelicals from this country.
Oh sure, ban evangelicals from exercising their rights to freedom of speech.

Arrogant, elitist liberals like you are precisely the ones that call for Christians and rational conservative radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh to be stripped of their rights; but I'll bet you want every illegal immigrant, anchor baby, and terrorist to have full protection of Constitutional rights.
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