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You're the only one in this thread that's said anything about the legal status of torture. Keep pulling at that strawman.
If your going to CHARGE someone with BREAKING the law, then they actually have to BREAK THE LAW.. If they havent, then the left wing accusations of "war crimes", or "torture" doesnt exist..
You cant ignore the LEGAL definition of terminology while arguing LEGAL charges..
If your going to CHARGE someone with BREAKING the law, then they actually have to BREAK THE LAW.. If they havent, then the left wing accusations of "war crimes", or "torture" doesnt exist..
You cant ignore the LEGAL definition of terminology while arguing LEGAL charges..
Who has said anything about charging someone with breaking the law within this thread? Facts bro, facts.
Derail - train is off the tracks.
If you can stop your GOP mouth foaming for 5 minutes you'd realize you are (possibly) losing your mind and probably posting in the wrong thread.
"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow said. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back... It was instantaneous... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
What other torture methods do you approve of? Just curious!
I think we should be able to engage in any activity against our enemy that they are willing to use against us. In the case of the Islamic terrorists, that gives us a pretty big window. Stopped over at the YNC.com lately?
The reason for the talk show host agreed to be waterboarded is because?
Of course he agreed to be waterboarded to dispute the liberals accusation that waterboarding = torture, which = breaking the law.
Turns out that he has changed his OPINION, doesnt mean that its torture..
If you THINK its torture, you should spend your time asking Congress and Obama to MAKE it torture LEGALLY..
You are wasting your breath on these guys. When its the Right, its wrong.
PS to the Left: do you remember a recent President arguing about the legal definition of "sex", "is", "are", "the", and "not" during his impeachment trial?
I think we should be able to engage in any activity against our enemy that they are willing to use against us. In the case of the Islamic terrorists, that gives us a pretty big window.
There go principles and honor out the window. I think you just made George Washington roll over in his grave. You want to let Islamic terrorists set the moral compass for this country? Really?
More plainly, what did your parents tell you about jumping off a cliff just because everyone else is doing it?
Last edited by helenejen; 05-22-2009 at 04:32 PM..
As used in this chapter— (1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control; (2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from— (A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering; (B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (C) the threat of imminent death; or (D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and
(3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.
Clearly the law says these people were not "tortured"..
But hey, dont let that stand in your way of lies..
Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
I beg to differ and the Constitution kind of does too...
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