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It's a punishment to FORCE a woman against her own choice. That's what the punishment is.
I know WAY too many friends of mine who have been raped, sexually abused, beaten, dirt poor, and terrorized by some man in their life, for me to actually sit here and try to judge a woman.
It's awful when a woman doesn't value life and continues to have abortions or treats them as a joke..but this is NOT normally the case...trashy women like that probably only account for maybe 1-5% @ MOST.
But THANK GOD, we, as women, have rights over our bodies..I wouldn't have it any other way. I, as a potential mother, have the ability to decide for myself, what is best. I don't see myself having an abortion for convenience..but for medical reasons and/or rape...yes.
This is beyond exasperating!!!!!!!!! Why don't we put an end to women being abused in our society????? That is the 64 billion dollar question.
When they go to their doctor for help and the only help is an abortion---then what? She goes back to the same abuse and horrid situation. THAT IS WHAT ABORTION MILLS DO. They don't help the woman get out of the situation, they won't tell the police if the girl is underage and comes in with an older man or they tell the girls not to tell who the father is if he is underage. They send them back to be abused again and again.
THAT IS HAVING NO RIGHTS OVER OUR BODIES. THE BIG LIE.
Don't you see something wrong with this cycle of abuse? Just pay for the abortion and be on your way. None of our business and anyway it's good money.
Then when the woman is older and wants to start a family she has lost her fertility with all the scar tissue from abortions. Why don't you go to a web site that has women who tell their stories of abortion. No, once again, ignorance is comforting.
I also don't think anyone should feel like they have to have a baby so someone else can adopt it.
Well then, the logic should follow that when you get old and frail and a burden to your children you should have your head bashed and your brain sucked out so as to relieve your children of that unwanted burden. Is that what I am hearing you say? Correct me if I'm wrong, otherwise there is some sort of moral disconnect here that sounds a bit narcissistic and self preserving.
This is beyond exasperating!!!!!!!!! Why don't we put an end to women being abused in our society????? That is the 64 billion dollar question.
When they go to their doctor for help and the only help is an abortion---then what? She goes back to the same abuse and horrid situation. THAT IS WHAT ABORTION MILLS DO. They don't help the woman get out of the situation, they won't tell the police if the girl is underage and comes in with an older man or they tell the girls not to tell who the father is if he is underage. They send them back to be abused again and again.
THAT IS HAVING NO RIGHTS OVER OUR BODIES. THE BIG LIE.
Don't you see something wrong with this cycle of abuse? Just pay for the abortion and be on your way. None of our business and anyway it's good money.
Then when the woman is older and wants to start a family she has lost her fertility with all the scar tissue from abortions. Why don't you go to a web site that has women who tell their stories of abortion. No, once again, ignorance is comforting.
Your way off base with this.
The problem with abused woman is that they do not get out of the cycle themselves. They are trapped. No matter what you say or what you do they will not learn until they hit some sort of "rock bottom".
woman aren't just abused physically or verbally once or twice, file a report and move on. Ask any officer..woman drop charges, woman go back or allow the abuser back into their homes despite many types of support systems out there. It has nothign to do with what is available to them or not.
You make it sound like all abortions that occur are occurring because of some sort of abuse? It could simply be that for whatever reason a person had sex with another and an accidental.. yes accidental pregnancy ocurred for whatever reason. And for whatever reason that person decides that having the baby is NOT the right choice for them. Period. I happen to know someone that despite being on the pill she got pregnant by her BF her first year in college. He turned out to be a jerk, denied it was his. She ended up having to decide one of three options.. before she ever went to a clinic of any sort to speak to anyone, she knew what her options were. She ended up deciding that she personally couldn't live with having an abortion, nor could she live giving birth to a child and giving him up. The choice she felt she could live with best was having the child and raising that child as a single mother.. One that is fortunate enough to have a support system (the family) to stand by her no matter what decision she made. The point is. SHE HAD CHOICES... and she chose. Her right.. everyone's right!
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. If a woman ends up abused with multiple pregnancies (which I doubt it is as common as you seem to think it is) and continues to go back to the abuser, that is her choice and no amount of coercion from anyone is going to make her make a different choice. Ask any cop that ever came up against a domestic abuse case in which they were responding multiple times to the scene only for things to remain the same.
This is beyond exasperating!!!!!!!!! Why don't we put an end to women being abused in our society????? That is the 64 billion dollar question.
When they go to their doctor for help and the only help is an abortion---then what? She goes back to the same abuse and horrid situation. THAT IS WHAT ABORTION MILLS DO. They don't help the woman get out of the situation, they won't tell the police if the girl is underage and comes in with an older man or they tell the girls not to tell who the father is if he is underage. They send them back to be abused again and again.
THAT IS HAVING NO RIGHTS OVER OUR BODIES. THE BIG LIE.
Don't you see something wrong with this cycle of abuse? Just pay for the abortion and be on your way. None of our business and anyway it's good money.
Then when the woman is older and wants to start a family she has lost her fertility with all the scar tissue from abortions. Why don't you go to a web site that has women who tell their stories of abortion. No, once again, ignorance is comforting.
Little Janelle...sweetheart, not ALL abused women have abortions. However, I do know MANY who have.
Yes, there are many abortion mills. I will NOT deny that. I have been
to a clinic myself..a definite mill. I know that not all places are like this..but I definitely find it unfortunate that they really don't care about what they are doing and performing 5-8 abortions in an hour.
However, in regards to ignorance being comfortable...well....I guess I'm really uncomfortable..I know so many abortion survivors that I can't even count them on my fingers. I have first hand experience..which is probably why I find your quirky little comments so juvenile and annoying. You clearly haven't lived outside of your little shell.
Little Janelle...sweetheart, not ALL abused women have abortions. However, I do know MANY who have.
Yes, there are many abortion mills. I will NOT deny that. I have been
to a clinic myself..a definite mill. I know that not all places are like this..but I definitely find it unfortunate that they really don't care about what they are doing and performing 5-8 abortions in an hour.
However, in regards to ignorance being comfortable...well....I guess I'm really uncomfortable..I know so many abortion survivors that I can't even count them on my fingers. I have first hand experience..which is probably why I find your quirky little comments so juvenile and annoying. You clearly haven't lived outside of your little shell.
Now here is where as a man I have to back away from the discussion. You lead in an admirable way. So long as one can interpret the logic and reason of the posters. One of you is wrong in the framework of that logic and reason and you demonstrate it in your own comments.
You agree and yet you disagree.
In your comments you are both against abortion and yet one of you seems to still endorse it in spite of the imagined differences. This is the truest example I have ever seen of political sensibility trumping logic,reality,truth.
Platinum 333 the abortion "survivors" you don't know, are the children, that would have lived the very same life you will live to your own genetic fruition. They deserve to have lived that life to their own genetic fruition.
god.amn!
These four posts should be carved in stone. Maybe taken to the supreme court!
Now here is where as a man I have to back away from the discussion. YOu agree and yet you disagree. In your comments you are both against abortion and yet one of you seems to still endorse it in spite of the imagined differences.
That's because she's not pro-abortion, she's pro-choice. Welcome to the discussion.
This is no "victory" for anyone. The end does NOT justify the means.
And when will we, as a society, make a real and concerted effort to prevent the huge numbers of unplanned pregnancies from ocurring in the first place, instead of fighting about it after the fact?
It seems both the 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' people do not give a sh*t about that. End the culture war? Oh, no! What would they do to get their dose of drama if abortion became rare?
I also don't think anyone should feel like they have to have a baby so someone else can adopt it.
Yeah! I love when women say they could never, ever, ever think of giving the child up for adoption, but they have no qualms about aborting it. How does this make sense.
I also don't think anyone should feel like they have to have a baby so someone else can adopt it.
Neither do I, but in many cases it would be a better choice than keeping the baby.
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and there is the terrorist slur again! Could it be that people don't see this one guy as a terrorist but just a man that believed babies should not be slaughtered at 9 months for someone's headache? The law will take care of this man.
If those were his beliefs, he should have been working to change the law.
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