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Old 06-20-2009, 04:10 PM
 
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As an atheist, I am in favor of overthrowing theocracies and replacing them with secular governments. This includes all theocracies, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Scientologist, etc. Having said that, I am not sure if the current unrest in Iran is fueled by a secular movement pushing to replace Islamic theocratic rule. If the dissidents simply want to replace the current theocrats with another batch of theocrats, then I withdraw my support. But if this is a genuine revolt to establish a more open, secular society, I am all for it.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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As an atheist, I am in favor of overthrowing theocracies and replacing them with secular governments. This includes all theocracies, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Scientologist, etc. Having said that, I am not sure if the current unrest in Iran is fueled by a secular movement pushing to replace Islamic theocratic rule. If the dissidents simply want to replace the current theocrats with another batch of theocrats, then I withdraw my support. But if this is a genuine revolt to establish a more open, secular society, I am all for it.
Yes - I wish we could get some news on what the Iranian people want.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Operation Ajax redux? The Ayatollah has every reason to be wary of American and British intervention in Iran ... history has a nasty habit of repeating itself if one doesn't remember.

1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what was it about??? Anyone anyone????

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Old 06-20-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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As an atheist, I am in favor of overthrowing theocracies and replacing them with secular governments. This includes all theocracies, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Scientologist, etc. Having said that, I am not sure if the current unrest in Iran is fueled by a secular movement pushing to replace Islamic theocratic rule. If the dissidents simply want to replace the current theocrats with another batch of theocrats, then I withdraw my support. But if this is a genuine revolt to establish a more open, secular society, I am all for it.
From what I can tell, it's one theocracy vs another theocracy.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: NC
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From what I can tell, it's one theocracy vs another theocracy.
That is what it seems like to me as well

Khamenei and his man Ahmadinejad versus Rafsanjani and his man Mosavi
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:12 PM
 
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Iran wasn't a theocracy until 1979 ... it's truly sad how America has forgotten recent history.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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like i said it another thread its bad vs bad....if Rafsanjani and Mousavi get their way...they could do the same rigging when the new elections come up in 4 years.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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Iran wasn't a theocracy until 1979 ... it's truly sad how America has forgotten recent history.
Well, that is the situation now.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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As an atheist, I am in favor of overthrowing theocracies and replacing them with secular governments. This includes all theocracies, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Scientologist, etc. Having said that, I am not sure if the current unrest in Iran is fueled by a secular movement pushing to replace Islamic theocratic rule. If the dissidents simply want to replace the current theocrats with another batch of theocrats, then I withdraw my support. But if this is a genuine revolt to establish a more open, secular society, I am all for it.
Have you checked out the background of the person the street wants in power? He is a religious leader.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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Have you checked out the background of the person the street wants in power? He is a religious leader.
Well, considering that he was selected by a bunch of religious leaders, I'm not surprised. That being said, considering the previous Iranian President, it's hard to see how he could be worse. At least Mousavi seems to be more stable and less of a kook.
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