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Old 06-21-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The majority of the country is firmly behind national health care
How do you know this? By ONE biased NYTimes poll of 825 people?

The first draft bill released to the CBO was/is DOA - the cost of $1.6 TRILLION, only insuring another 16 million and other items/details/COSTS left out of the bill, assured it's status.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:00 PM
 
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The rich most often opt out of health care, period. They can afford to do that.
I see no evidence whatsoever to substantiate your statement.

You seem to be stating an erroneous personal assumption as though it were fact... sort of a classical definition of 'hogwash'...
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:01 PM
 
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The rich most often opt out of health care, period. They can afford to do that.
LOL! You'll know better than this if you ever get rich.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You seem to be stating an erroneous personal assumption as though it were fact... sort of a classical definition of 'hogwash'...
You mean like this statement of yours?

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The majority of the country is firmly behind national health care
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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You mean like this statement of yours?
My statement is based on a recent poll that has made nationwide headlines...

Yours is based on - what - hot air???
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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How do you know this? By ONE biased NYTimes poll of 825 people?
What sort of bias did you detect? I doubt that you have any capacity to analyze polling data since you apparently don't know that 825 people is a perfectly reasonable sample size in most applications.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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[quote=sanrene;9399786]Hogwash. We have the best HC in the world.You do realize about half of that 47 million without HC is by choice - mainly young, healthy people.


you really think that young healthy people want to go without HC by choice? you really think a young person that is healthy doesn't worry about how they will pay for a doctor if they need one? you think people go without insurance because they are young and healthy. people go wothout insurance because they can't afford it. end of story. young healthy people as well as old unhealthy people, are at the same risks of not being able to go to the doctor when they get sick. people want to go to the doctor they just can't afford it, even young healthy people need anti biotics every now and again. get in an accident or get cancer when you are uninsured, need x-rays, fix compound fractured leg and an arm, run a few tests and you are bankrupt
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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My statement is based on a recent poll that has made nationwide headlines...
So...one poll of 825 people is indicative of what the whole nation wants?
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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and it WILL happen - in spite of many many many scare tactics by detractors...
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, said she wasn't certain there are enough votes in the president's own party to support the proposal.

"I think there's a lot of concern in the Democratic caucus," she said.

Obama Allies Worried Health Care Plan Lacks Necessary Votes - Political News - FOXNews.com
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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So...one poll of 825 people is indicative of what the whole nation wants?
Show me YOUR evidence to the contrary...
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