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Old 07-22-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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The vote on Cocealed Carry across state lines was beat down today.

Move to allow gun owners to take firearms over state lines is defeated - Los Angeles Times

20 Dems voted WITH 18 Repubs to try to pass this.

If anyone has a link to the actual votes,please post it...I can not find it for some reason.

Here are a few buttholes that NEED to be remembered the next time you go to the voting booth or the next time you are a victim of a crime where carrying a gun on your person may have stopped it.

You should also remember the Dems that tried to HELP pass this too.

"This is a grave threat to public safety," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). "Concealed-weapons laws that work in rural states may not be suitable in urban areas. What's good for Iowa or Alaska may not be good for California or New York." Feinstein was joined by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in voting against the measure.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) called the measure "probably the most dangerous" gun legislation since Congress allowed the federal assault-weapons ban to expire in 2004.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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20 Democrats and 18 Republicans voted to pass...36 Democrats and 23 Republicans voted no.

I love how just the Democrats get the quotes and bold when it was no where near split along party lines. You should equally apply those happy smiles to the Republicans who voted no as those Democrats, or else it just seems a bit hypocritical.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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feinstein and boxer. dumb and dumber.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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That is one law I have never payed any attention to. Always have a gun in my vehicle no matter where I go. Have never been robbed and don't plan on it.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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You also have to remember that there are states rights and many provide concealed carry reciprocity with many others. Federal legislation is not necessary, nor should it be. It should be up to the staters to decide what's acceptable within their borders.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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20 Democrats and 18 Republicans voted to pass...36 Democrats and 23 Republicans voted no.

I love how just the Democrats get the quotes and bold when it was no where near split along party lines.
Do you have a link to who voted which way??? I can not find one yet.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I can understand why this is a federal issue.
Each state can decide what it wants to do, but crossing state lines doesn't fall in that category.
Is your weapon registered in two states, that may address your issue.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Right now, 31 states have reciprocity agreements, 2 of which have no requirement for carry other than being legally allowed to purchase a firearm. I hope they can eventually pass something like this, as robbers, rapists and other scum bags lurk in every state.

Also, since the Constitution clearly states "shall not be infringed" all state and local laws are unconstitutional.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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The vote on Cocealed Carry across state lines was beat down today.

Move to allow gun owners to take firearms over state lines is defeated - Los Angeles Times

20 Dems voted WITH 18 Repubs to try to pass this.

If anyone has a link to the actual votes,please post it...I can not find it for some reason.

Here are a few buttholes that NEED to be remembered the next time you go to the voting booth or the next time you are a victim of a crime where carrying a gun on your person may have stopped it.

You should also remember the Dems that tried to HELP pass this too.

"This is a grave threat to public safety," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). "Concealed-weapons laws that work in rural states may not be suitable in urban areas. What's good for Iowa or Alaska may not be good for California or New York." Feinstein was joined by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in voting against the measure.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) called the measure "probably the most dangerous" gun legislation since Congress allowed the federal assault-weapons ban to expire in 2004.
I'm actually glad that the measure failed. Not because of gun control, but because it opened the door to increased federalization of gun laws when those laws should be imposed on the state and local levels. I know that you won't agree with me, Muleskinner, but I think that some of the people who voted against it were also considering the impact on state laws and on state autonomy on this issue.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Do you have a link to who voted which way??? I can not find one yet.
Not yet, I don't think it has been posted for the record yet. They like to drag their feet.
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