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Old 04-29-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Long term, yes. That's why reputation is important.
I disagree. The priorities of private enterprise are not really compatible with certain aspects of society.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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And Democrats protect organizations that demonstrably aid in the international sex trafficking and slavery of minor children.

We can do this all day if you like.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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And Democrats protect organizations that demonstrably aid in the international sex trafficking and slavery of minor children.

We can do this all day if you like.
What has that post got to do with anything?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Private enterprise is always better than govt., right?
I guess. Our voting process was outsourced to a private company who will be counting the votes in November.
Plenty of outsourcing done by all facets of government as well, even offshoring when the price is right.
Even our prisons have been outsourced to private companies.

Are you only seeing what you want to see ?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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liberals are just as bad as conservatives. dont stand on your high horse unless you are willing to talk about the GE debacle and it paying no tax at all, courtesy of the democrat party.
Yep, and all the goldman sachs guys in the whitehouse....oh and Corzine...

Then there was the biggest campaign contributions in 2008 by exxon to.....Obama.

All I can say is that both parties take the same actions, one just lies about it and their sheep cluelessly follow along.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Yep, and all the goldman sachs guys in the whitehouse....oh and Corzine...

Then there was the biggest campaign contributions in 2008 by exxon to.....Obama.

All I can say is that both parties take the same actions, one just lies about it and their sheep cluelessly follow along.

I still say the best thing to do would be to get rid of both the democrat and republican parties.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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Private enterprise needs to be defined from the point of the view of the buyer.

What will be VERY fun this election year is watching the GOP attempt to relate to people...will Romney hand out 100 dollars to the dirt poor in South Carolina again? lol....the GOP is unrelatable to ANY American citizen except the 1/10th of the top 1%.


This after the Obama campaign has written off blue collar white voters and Bummer trails Romney by 13% among swing voters.

You can point out the faults of the GOP all day, but what you can't do is explain why Democrats are better for a white person who wants to earn a living.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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Funny-you read my mind Katiana.

Reading posts on this forum about how corrupt and inept the government sector is all day every day, it is almost like folks are arguing that all private enterprise is noble and ethical. A laughable claim.

Why does it have to be one or the other?

Of course business is corrupt and unethical, but government is far worse.

They make laws based on what their corporate masters desire and then they exempt themselves from laws that would otherwise hold them accountable.

The only way to control the corruption is to keep the federal government as small as possible.

The less they have their hands in, the less they have opportunities to lie, cheat and steal.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:37 PM
 
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good info here.
Corporate attys for corporations write all the laws. When they over-leverage they simply get the Fed to bail them out. The US protects them, not individuals.


In this case, AG Swanson is alleging violation of federal law, so laws to prevent these practices are in place.

Since I'm a conservative, I oppose all bail-outs to include those Obama has been bragging about lately.

Hopefully common sense reforms can be initiated when Bummer is out of office to help hospitals which are forced to treat illegals and working people who need affordable insurance.

Still not seeing how this illegal collection practice is protected by the GOP (three years later).

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Old 04-29-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Why does it have to be one or the other?

Of course business is corrupt and unethical, but government is far worse.

They make laws based on what their corporate masters desire and then they exempt themselves from laws that would otherwise hold them accountable.

The only way to control the corruption is to keep the federal government as small as possible.

The less they have their hands in, the less they have opportunities to lie, cheat and steal.

Funny, you open with a moderate premise, then you go on an on with your opinions on one side. We have term limits to control government and regulations to limit business. We always will need both.
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