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Old 07-15-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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Ahh the efficient simplicity of gubmint.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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I can make any system look like that. Private would be just as complicated if you took every component and placed them all jumbly, including different parts of HR, sales, marketing, insurance companies, etc...
Gov't healthcare pays less proportion to admin than private.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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I can make any system look like that. Private would be just as complicated if you took every component and placed them all jumbly, including different parts of HR, sales, marketing, insurance companies, etc...
Perhaps, but the one major difference is that IT IS NOT TAXPAYER MONEY RUNNING THROUGH A CONVOLUTED PRIVATE SYSTEM!!!!!
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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Perhaps, but the one major difference is that IT IS NOT TAXPAYER MONEY RUNNING THROUGH A CONVOLUTED PRIVATE SYSTEM!!!!!
Ok. It's money that doesn't come from taxes through a different convoluted system. What's the difference? At least the government can convoute it in ways beneficial for people, rather than for the all-knowing benevolent "market"
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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Ok. It's money that doesn't come from taxes through a different convoluted system. What's the difference? At least the government can convoute it in ways beneficial for people, rather than for the all-knowing benevolent "market"
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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I can make any system look like that. Private would be just as complicated if you took every component and placed them all jumbly, including different parts of HR, sales, marketing, insurance companies, etc...
Gov't healthcare pays less proportion to admin than private.
G** yes! As for private vs public money, the cost of employer-paid ins. gets passed on to the consumer. Same song, different verse.
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:24 AM
 
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I know. For someone versed in Anglo-American economics and nothing else, it seems like denying a basic fact.
Please see Japan et al for strong gov't policies which have shown to be beneficial to the economy.
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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I know. For someone versed in Anglo-American economics and nothing else, it seems like denying a basic fact.
Please see Japan et al for strong gov't policies which have shown to be beneficial to the economy.
So the Japanese Government will run American Healthcare?

Sorry our Government does not exactly have the track record for running successful efficient endeavours the private sector can run as well or better.

Unless you want to point out medicare , social security, or Amtrak,

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332031100195115 (broken link)

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Old 07-15-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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I know. For someone versed in Anglo-American economics and nothing else, it seems like denying a basic fact.
Please see Japan et al for strong gov't policies which have shown to be beneficial to the economy.
Have you been to Japan lately? Your dead wrong. I won't bother with a stupid debate. Obama just gave his sorry little speech about passing healthcare a few minutes ago, with some cute little nurses supporting him. Meanwhile, in the real friggin world, I have been at the hospital with my dad for the last week. He's 86, heart failure, had four stents put in. Then a pace maker. I suppose you would say that's too much to keep him alive. The NURSES working at the hospital didn't. But what they did say if Obama's plan went through my dad wouldn't be considered as viable human life. And he would let him go. Do democrats even know how to love anyone? I don't understand you or people like you at all. There is no excuse. I could say a lot more but you are not worth the trouble.
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