Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
2,605 posts, read 4,844,527 times
Reputation: 1090

Advertisements

Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).

Question: Wasn't the constitutionality of this decided in 1973? How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Not flaming here. I just want to know how this works.

And yes, I do realize that insurance companies wield this power now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:08 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,884,155 times
Reputation: 14345
If you realize that insurance companies already wield the power, and that in universal health care the government becomes the insurance company, what exactly are you arguing will change?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
2,605 posts, read 4,844,527 times
Reputation: 1090
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
If you realize that insurance companies already wield the power, and that in universal health care the government becomes the insurance company, what exactly are you arguing will change?
I asked first.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: California
37,135 posts, read 42,222,200 times
Reputation: 35014
Planned Parenthood won't care.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
2,605 posts, read 4,844,527 times
Reputation: 1090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
Planned Parenthood won't care.
I don't imagine they will considering abortion rights will be greatly expanded.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
5,041 posts, read 6,217,651 times
Reputation: 1483
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomDot View Post
Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).
Nobody - NOBODY - is proposing universal health care. Nobody is even proposing single-payer health care. What we have under consideration is a very weak public program to help a small portion of Americans to get decent insurance coverage. And the right is working feverishly to kill that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 03:16 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,884,155 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomDot View Post
I asked first.
Then the answer is nothing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NC
9,984 posts, read 10,394,292 times
Reputation: 3086
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomDot View Post
Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).

Question: Wasn't the constitutionality of this decided in 1973? How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Not flaming here. I just want to know how this works.

And yes, I do realize that insurance companies wield this power now.
That is why I support public option. If the government and private industry compete neither one will hold that power exclusively and the consumers will ultimately get to choose what plan they want.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
2,605 posts, read 4,844,527 times
Reputation: 1090
Quote:
Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
Nobody - NOBODY - is proposing universal health care. Nobody is even proposing single-payer health care. What we have under consideration is a very weak public program to help a small portion of Americans to get decent insurance coverage. And the right is working feverishly to kill that.
The fever is occurring on the left. And it involves ramming a healthcare bill through before the summer recess before anyone has the time to read it or understand it.

How could you be so cavalier about changing the American healthcare system?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-28-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
2,605 posts, read 4,844,527 times
Reputation: 1090
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Then the answer is nothing.
Question: How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Answer: Nothing.

Hmmm!
O.K.!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:50 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top