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Old 08-09-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am willing to give up the following:
1. Free healthcare for elected reps.
2. Free lease cars for elected reps.
3. Free Secret service protection for former US Presidents.
4. Air conditioned prisons.
5. Creature comforts of any kind in prisons.
6. DNA testing on Bears
7. Foreign aid until we can balance the books and get us back in the black.
Pensions for "elected" officials. Shouldn't be a "job for life" to begin with.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:03 PM
 
Location: southern california
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open border an unwritten policy.

Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 08-09-2009 at 05:40 PM..
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What government run socialist programs are you willing to give up?

1. Medicare
2. Social Security
3. Tax Subsidies to Corps
4. Tax Subsidies to Individuals
5. Tax Subsidies to Farmers
6. Any and all Tax Subsidies
7. Welfare (TANF)
8. Public Schools
9. Public Universities/Community Colleges
10. Tariffs/Sales Tax/Property Tax/ etc
Well - I already have given up 1 and 2.

Yep - 3 through 10 - not a problem giving up.

Any other questions
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:09 PM
 
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Well - I already have given up 1 and 2.

Yep - 3 through 10 - not a problem giving up.

Any other questions
You're ok with doing away with all public education?
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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You're ok with doing away with all public education?
It is so bad now - that we might as well get rid of it. Give out vouchers - let parents send their kids where they want to - let them send them to better schools.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:17 PM
 
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It is so bad now - that we might as well get rid of it. Give out vouchers - let parents send their kids where they want to - let them send them to better schools.


Greatday, i love that idea!!! I'm definitely with you all the way on that one!! It is about time we put some serious competition on the public school system.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:19 PM
 
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What government run socialist programs are you willing to give up?

1. Medicare
2. Social Security
3. Tax Subsidies to Corps
4. Tax Subsidies to Individuals
5. Tax Subsidies to Farmers
6. Any and all Tax Subsidies
7. Welfare (TANF)
8. Public Schools
9. Public Universities/Community Colleges
10. Tariffs/Sales Tax/Property Tax/ etc

PS- 11. Bonus point for "inflation tax" - A la Federal Reserve

The top two choices (1) and (2) would save me more than 8,000-9,000 a year if i stopped paying into them. The others like sales tax, corp tax, farming subsidies, tariffs, and etc are a little harder to quantity, because they are often "hidden taxes."

Anyway, which government programs are you willing to give up for lower taxes?
Give up 3 through 6, and while we're at it, eliminate the deduction for churches and religious organizations, but keep it for charities like Red Cross, Goodwill, Cancer Society, and such. No need to subsidize religion, more and more of them are scams.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: ✶✶✶✶
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It is so bad now - that we might as well get rid of it. Give out vouchers - let parents send their kids where they want to - let them send them to better schools.
Wouldn't that essentially just turn private schools into public schools in the end? Sounds to me like it's just moving a problem instead of solving it.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Nashville
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3. Tax Subsidies to Corps
4. Tax Subsidies to Individuals
5. Tax Subsidies to Farmers
6. Any and all Tax Subsidies
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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I take issue with the thread title. It should read "social programs," not socialist programs.

I guess the word "socialist/ism" has been misused for so long that people today associate socialism with any government program.
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