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Old 08-25-2009, 01:41 AM
 
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I got this in an email that is going around----the ACORN people sure are at it and they are experts.
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When I looked this up on Snopes, apparently it is a real letter....you have to draw your own conclusions.....


This was sent to me by a friend in Bozeman, MT who was there. Why do we tolerate this?


Hello All,

By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.

On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the "Town Hall" at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you cannot get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public. FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$


During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$

Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED. This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd. The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them.....professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)

Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press.....Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.
We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho . Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes........the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC. Scary!!

Bozeman , Montana



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Old 08-25-2009, 01:46 AM
 
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Why is the print so small? I C&P it in larger print.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:00 AM
 
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When I looked this up on Snopes, apparently it is a real letter....you have to draw your own conclusions.....
They have labeled it as "mixture", not true. They discredit the lobster claim, support the smaller discrepancy in tickets claim, some supporters were bused in and armed with professional signs, that protest were not completely ignored by the local media, and the police did make an arrest.

snopes.com: Bozeman Town Hall Meeting
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:36 AM
 
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In other words, the e-mail is another example of manufactured outrage and deliberately dishonest right-wing propaganda. What a surprise...
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:50 AM
 
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All that effort by the left and Obama is still failing.
You can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:10 AM
 
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Did you bother REALLY ACTUALLY checking snopes before posting that chain email?

Of course not! The majority of it is unverifiable garbage, with mostly outright lies.

That's the new thing these emails do - they put at the top "I CHECKED THIS ON SNOPES AND IT'S TRUE".... when that's not the case.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am insulted because the OP thought I (we) was stupid enough to fall for this nonsense.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Did you bother REALLY ACTUALLY checking snopes before posting that chain email?

Of course not! The majority of it is unverifiable garbage, with mostly outright lies.

That's the new thing these emails do - they put at the top "I CHECKED THIS ON SNOPES AND IT'S TRUE".... when that's not the case.


you know what's sad and disturbing - the people who send the emails KNOW that the recipients are not the type to check, themselves.

very sad. (and disturbing!)
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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I got this in an email that is going around----the ACORN people sure are at it and they are experts.
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When I looked this up on Snopes, apparently it is a real letter....you have to draw your own conclusions.....
janelle, are you saying YOU looked this up on Snopes?

since everything in it is false or misleading, why would you post it?

are "the ACORN people" the people who bother to look up the truth?
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:22 AM
 
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They have labeled it as "mixture", not true. They discredit the lobster claim, support the smaller discrepancy in tickets claim, some supporters were bused in and armed with professional signs, that protest were not completely ignored by the local media, and the police did make an arrest.

snopes.com: Bozeman Town Hall Meeting

I didn't write the part about looking it up on Snopes, the email came with that disclaimer. Looks like I won't be accepting that line again. I do always check when I get an email like that and I send it back to the sender if I find it to be incorrect.

I have heard though that Snopes is very left leaning so I am sceptical of them anymore when the email is political. Anyone know of a neutral site to check for facts?

Busing in ACORN people does not make me feel confident that side is fair. You tell people where to be and what to say and then give them lunch. Not a good image but they are doing it whenever there is a town hall meeting. That is the kind of thing that makes this email very believable so I blame the professional demonstrators when an email like this goes around.
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