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Price controls, corporate collusion with government. All tenets of Nazism. Sounds more socialist to me. Nice try though.
I hear an awful lot of hate speech on these boards with relationship to "rednecks", "the eeeeeeevil greeeeeedy capitalists" and "Uncle Toms". These are different sects of society akin to race.
Every fascist chooses what they want to control. Nazis were also perfectly fine with abortion and supported universal health care.
What kind of nonsense is that?
Nazism is not socialism. The rest of your post is nonsensical.
Nazism is not socialism. The rest of your post is nonsensical.
Of course it is. I've just explained why. It's your choice as to whether you want to agree or disagree, but you must understand that a one-liner saying my post is "nonsensical" does nothing on your end of the debate. Just because there was a war between Nazis and Soviets didn't make it a battle between ideologies. Their ideologies were very similar. VERY similar.
Of course it is. I've just explained why. It's your choice as to whether you want to agree or disagree, but you must understand that a one-liner saying my post is "nonsensical" does nothing on your end of the debate. Just because there was a war between Nazis and Soviets didn't make it a battle between ideologies. Their ideologies were very similar. VERY similar.
You are wrong. Their ideologies are not similar, they are completely at odds. The methodologies may have been similar. But the ideologies are opposite. Nazism was a combination of extreme nationalism and fascism. Which are not liberal philosophies, and have nothing to do with socialism. NOTHING.
I think that the marine made some good points. The Rep who took the hits did alright as well. Unlike Nancy he did not attack the Marine in anyway. He showed the respect that said Marine has earned through his service.
He didn't answer any questions or give a rebuttal but then the video was only 2 minutes. I would be interested to hear the mans answers.
You are wrong. Their ideologies are not similar, they are completely at odds. The methodologies may have been similar. But the ideologies are opposite. Nazism was a combination of extreme nationalism and fascism. Which are not liberal philosophies, and have nothing to do with socialism. NOTHING.
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Absolutely correct. Hitler's life and political development are obviously not well known, considering the charges made by some posters.
Oh yes, great video of idiocy. I love the part where he mentions education and tells the Congressperson to stay away from his kids. Guess he hasn't heard of public education.
Then he goes on to show his ignorance by conflating national socialism and socialism.
And one would also think that a Marine veteran would be honorable and respect the wishes of those who actually suffered under the Nazis and not bring Nazi imagery into a discussion of current US politics:
"Regardless of the political differences and the substantive differences in the debate over health care, the use of Nazi symbolism is outrageous, offensive and inappropriate," said Abraham H. Foxman, [Anti-Defamation League ]National Director and a Holocaust survivor. "Americans should be able to disagree on the issues without coloring it with Nazi imagery and comparisons to Hitler. This is not where the debate should be at all." Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » A United States Marine Goes to a Town Hall Meeting
SHAME ON HIM.
There are some similarities to the rise of the Nazi party and to the rise of the latest version of the Democratic party.
Votes based on demand for change?
An almost religious like following for a gifted speaker.
Sharp increase in gov growth and control.
The Gov take over of private sector industries.
All this is true, But I myself would not compare Obama to Hitler.
As far as a Marine being sensitive to those who suffered under Nazism. Why did he have a part in it? Did he say that he was for it? In fact it is very clear in his statements that he is absolutely against it. I for one feel no need to step lightly around the topic. Just as AIPAC seems to feel no reluctance about using the topic as a means of guilting the USA into unconditional support for Israel.
The Marine owes no apology... The marine has nothing to be ashamed about.
First of all, the collectivism you are talking about has nothing to do with liberal collectivism. Fascism is the application of capitalism to the socio-political system. When Hitler is saying "today's capitalism" he is envisioning a new capitalism, an capitalism that dominates political decision-making, a system of government that is all about advancing big business. That is not a liberal vision.
Secondly, your statements about liberalism are completely false. Why would liberals care about race? And liberals are not pro-abortion, though they may be about pro-choice. Believing that women, in consultation with their doctors, are in the best position for determining what is best for themselves, has absolutely nothing to do with "weeding out" anyone.
Thirdly, fascism is the enemy of socialism and communism. So your remarks about them are irrelevant. And just so you know, what history shows is that absolutism is the abuser of human rights. Totalitarianism is the abuser of human rights. Not socialism or communism, per se. The problem with socialism or communism is not the philosophy, but the pragmatic need in such systems for strong central leadership in order to maintain sufficient productivity levels to sustain the system. Neither socialism or communism as a philosophy espouse such a strong central leader, but fascism does. Both socialism and communism emphasize human cooperation, not subservience. It is fascism that is about subservience, not just to the business of government, but to business itself.
Excellent post!!! And you're absolutely right about Socialism and capitalism. Well done!!!
I think that the marine made some good points. The Rep who took the hits did alright as well. Unlike Nancy he did not attack the Marine in anyway. He showed the respect that said Marine has earned through his service.
He didn't answer any questions or give a rebuttal but then the video was only 2 minutes. I would be interested to hear the mans answers.
That "marine" deserves no respect. He's an idiot who has shown that he knows nothing whatsoever about the constitution. Where has his outrage at the unconstitutional practices of the US government been for the last 8 years? He is nothing more than an "useful idiot" of the right.
Here we go again, The Big Lie by the Left. To quote Adolf Hitler:
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak......." And he continued "and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
Hardly right wing at all. Fascism is still based on collectivism ("fascist" comes from the Italian word for bundle, fascio) and says that as individuals we are weak but bundled together we become strong through our collectivism. Liberals have an obsession with race, Conservatives do not, Liberals seeks to weed out the unwanted via abortion, Conservatives do not. History shows that socialism and communism have been the abusers of human rights, not the false champion as Liberals declare. Just check out Mao and Stalin and Castro.
Subservience to the state is the backbone of Fascism, Communism and Socialism, and is a Liberal concept. Conservatives seek to empower people and avoid tyranny.
The basic aim of all economic measures was to bring economic prosperity to Italy. Since 1921 Mussolini continued to adopt the high tariff policy to protect the home market from the competition of foreign goods. The most important economic reform was, however, the formation of the Corporate State.
On April 21, 1927 the Labour Charter solemnly expressed the ideas of Fascist Corporate State. According to the Charter, the government would bring both employers and employees of the same trade into one confederation.
In 1934 twenty-two corporations were formed. Each corporation consisted of employers' and workers' representatives. The government also sent its representatives to participate in the administration of the corporations. All the corporations were put under the supervision of a National Council of Corporations, of which Mussolini was the Chairman.
An Assessment of the Economic Reforms
In spite of all his efforts Mussolini clearly failed to give economic prosperity to Italy and a real improvement in the standard of living of the workers and peasants.
First of all, the corporations benefited only the employers."
Quite close to the USA since "Reaganomics."
That is, government has been melded with business interests to the detrement of workers' interests.
That "marine" deserves no respect. He's an idiot who has shown that he knows nothing whatsoever about the constitution. Where has his outrage at the unconstitutional practices of the US government been for the last 8 years? He is nothing more than an "useful idiot" of the right.
You are entitled to your opinion. Just as he is entitled to his. You are entitled to free spreech so is he.
His years of service putting his life on the line entitles him to respect from any elected rep. Especially any of those who have never served in uniform.. It is those who wear the Uniform that keep this nation free and defend our rights as a nation to be self determined.
A politician on the other hand is a professional liar. Nothing more nothing less.
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