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As someone who lived in England and worked in an MPs office I got tons of letters wanting health care reform and more money spend on health care. They all had one common theme though. Something to the effect of "I want reform, but I do not want American style health care." No one in Britain I heard from would trade their health care for the US system in a million years.
the article does not in any way prove that women don't make it to the maternity ward because they are turned away. it proves only that they don't make it to the maternity ward. why they don't make it is the important part, and it is only addressed by speculation.
here are some women who were turned away from hospitals in the u.s. while in labor (these are cases of "patient dumping" where fines were assessed):
Patient Dumping | Office of Inspector General (http://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/enforcement/cmp/patient_dumping_archive.asp - broken link)
As someone who lived in England and worked in an MPs office I got tons of letters wanting health care reform and more money spend on health care. They all had one common theme though. Something to the effect of "I want reform, but I do not want American style health care." No one in Britain I heard from would trade their health care for the US system in a million years.
This is so true.
Any System has to change to suit its current surroundings. The NHS is no different.
I have noticed over the past few years that new innovations, technologies and approaches in the NHS has improved the System. The UK is NOT afraid to change things when needed, unfortunately America is.
Another sensible post...thanks Random.
Not at all Geeoro. I was / am merely stating FACT.
The news story is factual. And, as a matter of fact, you cannot deny the fact.
As i saifd in my reply to you, the headline that could have been used by the media to use your personal tragedy to prove their point was also true but extremely misleading as was this rubbish printed about women having babies outside a delivery room.
And that's the game of the media...hope there are enough suckers out there to buy their B/S.
This is so true.
Any System has to change to suit its current surroundings. The NHS is no different.
I have noticed over the past few years that new innovations, technologies and approaches in the NHS has improved the System. The UK is NOT afraid to change things when needed, unfortunately America is.
Another sensible post...thanks Random.
I almost laughed when I read some of the complaints at the office: like I had to wait 2 whole weeks to see a specialist or I am writing to complain about the NHS after 10 different doctors NHS will not pay for me to see doctor #11 for a second opinion. On top of this there are almost no out of pocket expenses in Britain. Something like 97% of people never there see a hospital bill in their lives. For profit insurance is nothing short of legalized gambling, but unlike Vegas when you make a claim the house doesn't pay up until you sue.
As i saifd in my reply to you, the headline that could have been used by the media to use your personal tragedy to prove their point was also true but extremely misleading as was this rubbish printed about women having babies outside a delivery room.
And that's the game of the media...hope there are enough suckers out there to buy their B/S.
And headlines such as this are found in ALL MEDIA, for ALL COUNTRIES.
And the point is - the headline is, as you have agreed, TRUE.
And headlines such as this are found in ALL MEDIA, for ALL COUNTRIES.
And the point is - the headline is, as you have agreed, TRUE.
the headline is true, but it doesn't say WHAT forced the women to give birth outside maternity wards. the thread title is an unsubstantiated assumption.
and according to the article itself, it's not exactly true, because the numbers add up to more than 4000, not "almost 4000". some of the numbers, somewhere in the article, are wrong. it's immaterial but says something about the quality of reporting going on in the telegraph.
and headlines such as this are found in all media, for all countries.
And the point is - the headline is, as you have agreed, true.
yawn!!!!!!!!!!
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