Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: How many of you will be marching on Washington on 9/12
I will be protesting in Washington 6 6.32%
I will be protesting locally 15 15.79%
I will be watching on TV 21 22.11%
I will not be participating 53 55.79%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-11-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC/ West Palm Beach, FL
1,062 posts, read 2,253,084 times
Reputation: 840

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
Hey cuebald, is Obama supposed to be in town tomorrow so he can go talk to those people?
Nah, it would be a waste of time to talk to those people. Are those the same people that consider a town hall meeting a shouting match instead of a civilized meeting involving questions and answers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-11-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
90,297 posts, read 120,810,305 times
Reputation: 35920
Nothing on the first page of google from the Rocky Mountain states, the true libertarians.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,029 posts, read 14,216,690 times
Reputation: 16752
Quote:
Originally Posted by ovcatto View Post
Freedom movement? Dare I ask, freedom from what?
Freedom from involuntary servitude, from being compelled to labor for the benefit of another; from mindless bureaucratic rules and regulations ad infinitum.

Is that enough?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 02:49 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,029 posts, read 14,216,690 times
Reputation: 16752
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecvMatt View Post
I will be at the range, exercising what is left of my second amendment right, or at home cleaning the objects of that right. I think the President has shown that he could not care less about what people might want, he was given his mandate when he got elected and will proceed to push his agenda through, regardless of protests and outspoken opposition.
The last time I read the constitution, the executive branch was to execute the laws passed by Congress. The Executive was not to "push his agenda", pass laws or have some "mandate" to ignore the laws enacted by Congress.

In fact, the founding fathers wanted non-partisan execution of the laws of the land.

But if you know of some clause that says otherwise, please upload it for all of us to read.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,029 posts, read 14,216,690 times
Reputation: 16752
Constitutional Refresher 101

The U.S. Constitution is a compact between the States united and the United States, in Congress assembled. As part of the delegated powers, the United States is authorized to secure rights (not grant them) and govern those who consent. There are certain restrictions on the U.S., enumerated in the Bill of Rights, regarding the powers and rights of the people. There are government granted privileges and immunities (often called "rights"), but they are not of the nature of inalienable rights, that existed prior to the institution of government.

However, in 1935, Americans began to surrender their endowment of inalienable rights, by enrollment into Socialist InSecurity. Since there is no law compelling participation nor punishing Americans who do not participate, it is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude.

At this time, many of the perceived "unconstitutional" actions of government (ex: lack of lawful money, socialist taxes and duties, requirement to get permission [license] before one can own a dog, marry, travel, operate a business, engage in occupations, possess certain substances, register their property, communicate, suffer complex regulation, and so on) can be traced back to consent.

Remember, the Declaration of Independence stated that governments are instituted among men to (a) secure rights [life, liberty, property, etc] and (b) govern those who consent.

If one has consented to the surrender of his inalienable rights, there are no grounds to object. If one was deceived by fraud, constructive fraud, misrepresentation or withholding of material facts, to get that consent, by all means - you have the right to object and revoke your signature upon those many many documents.

All law is the protection of property rights, all else is policy, and policy requires consent.

If one has surrendered his private property rights in order to be eligible for socialist entitlements, there is nothing for law to secure. All that remains is socialist policy - authorized by your consent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 10:16 AM
 
1 posts, read 982 times
Reputation: 11
Trying to reason with people who get their news from Beck, Limbaugh and FAUX News is harder than convincing a terrorist that there ain't 72 virgins waiting for him on the other side!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,325 posts, read 44,961,908 times
Reputation: 7118
Great turnout so far!

Way to go.



Definitely more than tens of thousands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMXz6xGeqc
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,325 posts, read 44,961,908 times
Reputation: 7118
Gateway Pundit: TWO MILLION PLUS PROTEST BIG GOVERNMENT IN DC (http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/one-million-plus-protest-big-government.html - broken link)

Quote:
The tally coming from Washington DC Tea Party Protest.
Both CNN and ABC are reporting.......
...2 MILLION PLUS-- ROTESTERS!
Anybody heard this on CNN or ABC?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,325 posts, read 44,961,908 times
Reputation: 7118
FreedomWorks Rally 288868-1 : C-SPAN Video Library | Created by Cable. Offered as a Public Service.

Make sure you see as they pan the crowd at the very beginning.

I not so sure it wasn't over a million.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-12-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Boise
4,426 posts, read 5,920,902 times
Reputation: 1701
what r we protesting?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:32 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top