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Old 09-08-2009, 07:38 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I believe redefining 9/11 insults the memory of the first brave Americans to die in our war with the ignorant Islamo-fascists who would enslave us. Why should we reject the slavery of Sharia Law al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups would impose on us only to allow ourselves to be pimped-off by a party and a president who will do anything and say anything to promote his own social engineering goals. One of these goals is tripling the size of AmeriCorps in the next eight years. The administration's hi-jacking of this solemn day of mourning and relection is self-serving, manipulative and disgraceful.

I believe YOU are still free to sit on your ass and contribute nothing to America, so what are you whining about?
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:48 AM
 
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I have no problem with people volunteering to help victims of 9/11, but as someone said we should be volunteering and donating and being good to our fellow man in need 365 days of the year. The goal is for 9/11/10 to be the biggest volunteer day? Why not December 7? Or August 29? Or even April 19? The point is this country has faced, been hit, and survived a whole lot. And not one life lost was more important than another. And not one single person alive is more important than any dead or alive. we have to help each other everyday. Not just one day. The goal shouldn't be the be the biggest but to help as many people as possible. Would it matter any more if 100 people volunteered and only helped 10 people? Or for 10 people to help 20?

we didn't gain the lesson of being able to help each other out. we have been doing that for years. what we did learn was to be more vigilant and not take our safety for granted. we learned that we aren't safe in our little caccoon in far away from everyone else. That we too are vulnerable. That's what was learned. Not how to help people. I don't know about others, but where I come from we didn't need 9/11 to teach us how to help out our fellow neighbor. We already did that.
EXACTLY! It is clear the "day of service" has great intentions but everyday is a day of service and contribution. To me this is blatent exploitation of a tragic day in American history.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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EXACTLY! It is clear the "day of service" has great intentions but everyday is a day of service and contribution. To me this is blatent exploitation of a tragic day in American history.
Tell that to the families of the victims that have been championing this for 7 years. Are they exploiting the deaths of their family members?
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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EXACTLY! It is clear the "day of service" has great intentions but everyday is a day of service and contribution. To me this is blatent exploitation of a tragic day in American history.
Yes, I think a one minute "moment of silence" before the high school football game would be a far greater tribute to those who died. Not!
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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Obama could declare December 25 to be Christmas and the 4th Thursday in November to be Thanksgiving and y'all would say it was a Socialist takeover of America.

Your constant whining would be comical were it not so tiresome.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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As someone who lost loved ones on 9/11 - I urge everyone to donate their time volunteering if they can, as people seem to have forgotten that's what we all did in the days following 9/11.

MyGoodDeed is an organization run by family members of the 9/11 victims and this is a great success, as they've been attempting to get a day of service on 9/11 in remembrance for quite some time now:

911DayOfService.org | Home

Bringing the country together to help rather than hate is a far better way to remember everyone who died on that day... and there are still thousands of people here in NY suffering from health problems related to being a first responder that could use your help.

STOP trying to politicize this day of remembrance and volunteerism to further your anti-Obama agenda and stop and HELP. Instead of using this to rail against Muslims, stop and HELP your fellow Americans who need it.

The Salvation Army: Home
American Red Cross
America's 9/11 Foundation
www.unitedway.org
www.nycares.org
No one wants to relive the horrors of that day, and volunteering is a way to making something good out of it. Doing it in a private way is fine, turning the day into an excuse to push 0bama's community organizing is not.

This is like creating a new Easter Bunny to diminish the meaning behind the day of Sept 11.

In years to come, their will be posters all over the schools and ads run in the local paper for the “National Day of Service," . The children will paint pictures of each other as taking part in working together as a part of the national collective.

Only a few old people will remember what happened on that day, and trying to remind people of the real facts of 9/11 will be seen as an agitator, someone who is just trying to stir up old hatreds and create anti-Muslim feelings.

I'm not suggesting that young children paint pictures of death and destruction, they will be enough time in their lives to learn that there are evil people in the world. Sept 11th should be a day to remember what freedom, liberty mean to our nation, and why we hold these principles so dear, and why they are worth protecting.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Better idea!
Don't do anything useful or helpful but make sure you're here on City Data on 9/11 denigrating anybody who is out there doing something disgraceful like helping somebody else.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:13 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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No one wants to relive the horrors of that day, and volunteering is a way to making something good out of it. Doing it in a private way is fine, turning the day into an excuse to push 0bama's community organizing is not.

This is like creating a new Easter Bunny to diminish the meaning behind the day of Sept 11.

In years to come, their will be posters all over the schools and ads run in the local paper for the “National Day of Service," . The children will paint pictures of each other as taking part in working together as a part of the national collective.

Only a few old people will remember what happened on that day, and trying to remind people of the real facts of 9/11 will be seen as an agitator, someone who is just trying to stir up old hatreds and create anti-Muslim feelings.

I'm not suggesting that young children paint pictures of death and destruction, they will be enough time in their lives to learn that there are evil people in the world. Sept 11th should be a day to remember what freedom, liberty mean to our nation, and why we hold these principles so dear, and why they are worth protecting.
FOR THE LAST TIME:

You should research how this Day of Service came to be, because it's NOT something that Obama came up with. This has been in the works for well over SEVEN years - organized by a non-profit group comprised of families of the victims.

You seem to think we will all forget - I can guarantee you we will not.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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This is what I said,

"I believe redefining 9/11 insults the memory of the first brave Americans to die in our war with the ignorant Islamo-fascists who would enslave us."
I've read this from you in this thread for several days now and I just have to ask you - how in the world do you see 'insult' to anyone in asking Americans to spend the day volunteering? No one is 'redefining' the day. We all know what happened that day - most of us in fact still have nightmares about it, whether we were there in those cities, lost someone close to us or simply watched in shock as it unfolded 2-3,000 miles away. We all watched as people who could have simply fled instead volunteered their time and other assets to help in any way they could, whether it was by handing out bottles of water, digging in the rubble to find bodies, helping survivors out of danger or whatever. If you think asking Americans to continue that volunteerism 'insults' those who died that day or insults those who were helped by that volunteerism, then I think it is YOU who is seeing things differently from the majority of Americans.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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FOR THE LAST TIME:

You should research how this Day of Service came to be, because it's NOT something that Obama came up with. This has been in the works for well over SEVEN years - organized by a non-profit group comprised of families of the victims.

You seem to think we will all forget - I can guarantee you we will not.
They don't want to believe that because, if they believed what you're saying, it would take away one of their "reasons" for hating Barack Obama!
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