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Old 09-08-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: California
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Yup. He's been bening over backwards long enough. He has to realize that he will never be able to bend far enough to satisfy everyone so on with the show!
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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The GOP offered up what? Nada, that's what! They are there to keep the insurance company monoplies in place and very lttle else. They do not give a rat's butt for the American people. Selfishness and indifference personified! The party of obstruction.

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Old 09-08-2009, 07:05 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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All the Republican Machine has is FEAR. Scare the Seniors that they will pull the plug on them. Scare the parents that their kids will be indoctrinated in school. Fear. Fear. Fear.

They have nothing else but fear. There was a former President a very long time ago who said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself".

Remember this next time the Fear Machine starts cranking.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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because, the left won't consider anything the right offers up and just strip it out and say that they have no ideas. The American people aren't stupid, they can see right through the strong arm tactics of the selfish left.
Specifically....?

Got any links re: all those workable GOP "ideas" you allude to, that the Dems allegedly didn't consider and "stripped out"...?

Moreover, how does any of that correlate with what you stated in your first post (that Bill Clinton's assessment means the end of the Democratic majority in 2010 and Obama's chance for a second term in 2012)?
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:09 PM
 
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good news, this will definitely be the end of his 2nd term wishes and the dem stronghold in 2010.
Losing in 2010 or even 2012 to get what Americans have tried to implement since Teddy Roosevelt will be well worth it.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: OUTTA SIGHT!
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I don't understand... why do liberals TRY really hard to make it a GOP issue... its really a liberal issue...
Um, yeah, organized groups of hecklers and people intent on disrupting any rational discourse of health care was the LEFT trying to make the GOP the center of attention.

Spinning that a little too much aren't you?
It's starting to resemble parody.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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Losing in 2010 or even 2012 to get what Americans have tried to implement since Teddy Roosevelt will be well worth it.
Amen to that!

Republicans seem to think that the Dems losing their majority in 2010, due to a public option being instituted this year, would be a huge win for the GOP, when in all reality, Dems don't care too much about 2010, if it means we get the public option we were promised. We care about health care reform, not winning a mid-term election. If a good health care reform bill gets passed, Republicans can have the majority back. The Dems will still have won.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Amen to that!

Republicans seem to think that the Dems losing their majority in 2010, due to a public option being instituted this year, would be a huge win for the GOP, when in all reality, Dems don't care too much about 2010, if it means we get the public option we were promised. We care about health care reform, not winning a mid-term election. If a good health care reform bill gets passed, Republicans can have the majority back. The Dems will still have won.
I think that is the defining difference, the Republicans are more than willing to sell out their own principles (read voting for end of life counseling then calling them death panels) for short term political gain than actually doing anything of worth for the American people.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Amen to that!

Republicans seem to think that the Dems losing their majority in 2010, due to a public option being instituted this year, would be a huge win for the GOP, when in all reality, Dems don't care too much about 2010, if it means we get the public option we were promised. We care about health care reform, not winning a mid-term election. If a good health care reform bill gets passed, Republicans can have the majority back. The Dems will still have won.
..and so will the idiots that have been kicking and screaming on the right as they will be getting the benefits of the reform just as well...in spite of themselves.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:37 PM
 
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Hope he listens to Clinton. I didn't like hs personal BS, but Clinton did do a lot for this country,in spite of what the right wingnuts say.
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