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Old 03-29-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by RD5050 View Post
Bush started plans for an Iraq War when he first entered the White House in Jan 2001:

which was continuing the clinton policies.....

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1999

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Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
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"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."

Senator Harry Reid (Democrat, Nevada)
Addressing the US Senate
October 9, 2002
Congressional Record, p. S10145


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"Dear Mr. President: ... We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

Sincerely,

John Kerry, Carl Levin, Joe Lieberman, Frank R. Lautenberg, Dick Lugar, Kit Bond, Jon Kyl, Chris Dodd, John McCain, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Alfonse D'Amato, Bob Kerrey, Pete V. Domenici, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Mikulski, Thomas Daschle, John Breaux, Tim Johnson, Daniel K. Inouye, Arlen Specter, James Inhofe, Strom Thurmond, Mary L. Landrieu, Wendell Ford, Chuck Grassley, Jesse Helms, Rick Santorum.

Letter to President Clinton
Signed by Senators Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others
October 9, 1998
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Both parties are drunk with power and are going to spend our money regardless of what we say or do. So its either vote for republicans and spend your money on wars and more funding for the police state or vote for democrats and get large government social programs.

I for one choose the social programs over the wars and police state.

Plus social conservatives are ruining this country...
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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The wars have turned into one big overpriced jobs program.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The presidents job is to ASK Congress for permission, CONGRESS GAVE IT, without even a fight.. Do you have a clue how the three branches of government work?

To the public, not Congress..
It was NOT Congress who created the idea to start the Iraq war.

That was Bush.

And many Democrats in Congress did FIGHT to prevent this war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

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21 (42%) of 50 Democratic Senators voted against the resolution:
But Bush got them to vote on Iraq IMMEDIATELY before the Nov 2002 election, forcing them to potentially lose their seat in Congress, if they looked "un-patriotic", and looked unwilling to stop Saddam from using his "supposed" batch of WMD's against America.


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And? We've heard all of this before, are you pretending you are providing me with something new?
Apparently you CHOOSE to forget it was entirely BUSH that wanted the Iraq War ... going all the way back to Jan 2001.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Apparently you CHOOSE to forget it was entirely BUSH that wanted the Iraq War ... going all the way back to Jan 2001.
and apparently you seem to forget that it was US POLICY to change the regime in iraq....BEFORE BUSH


Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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which was continuing the clinton policies.....

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1999

-----------------

Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
---------------------

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."

Senator Harry Reid (Democrat, Nevada)
Addressing the US Senate
October 9, 2002
Congressional Record, p. S10145


------------------------

"Dear Mr. President: ... We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

Sincerely,

John Kerry, Carl Levin, Joe Lieberman, Frank R. Lautenberg, Dick Lugar, Kit Bond, Jon Kyl, Chris Dodd, John McCain, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Alfonse D'Amato, Bob Kerrey, Pete V. Domenici, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Mikulski, Thomas Daschle, John Breaux, Tim Johnson, Daniel K. Inouye, Arlen Specter, James Inhofe, Strom Thurmond, Mary L. Landrieu, Wendell Ford, Chuck Grassley, Jesse Helms, Rick Santorum.

Letter to President Clinton
Signed by Senators Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others
October 9, 1998



+1

You beat me to it.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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Apparently you CHOOSE to forget it was entirely BUSH that wanted the Iraq War ... going all the way back to Jan 2001.
Then why did CLINTON change the US policy into overthrowing the government of Iraq in 1998?
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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and apparently you seem to forget that it was US POLICY to change the regime in iraq....BEFORE BUSH


Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
Bush was the one who went to war, not Clinton
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
and apparently you seem to forget that it was US POLICY to change the regime in iraq....BEFORE BUSH


Regime change in Iraq has been official US policy since 1998. The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998
Nobody said Saddam shouldn't be removed from power. That was a given.

But it was BUSH who chose to do so by starting a WAR, with or without support from other major countries.

To say it is "policy to support efforts" would mean to join in with a group of countries who all decide together to remove Saddam from power.

And that wasn't the case.

Most major countries were AGAINST attacking Iraq.

The only countries which joined us in the coalition were the UK, Australia, and a handful of small countries.
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bush was the one who went to war, not Clinton

actually the war came to us

do you forget the attacks on 9/11

as a New Yorker, I dont

bush should have never taken his eyes off the ball in afganastan, but Iraq was just as bad....plus solomia,etheopia, iran, pakistan, darfur.....

funny obama is carpet bombing civilians in pakistan and quietly sending troops to HOA.(Horn Of Africa (somolia,etheopia,darfur))...but you dont complain about that do you
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