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Old 09-14-2009, 06:59 AM
 
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While I see thread after thread complaining about Obama's Health Care Reform costs .... I think we NEED a reminder of how much George W. Bush's Iraq War cost the U.S. Taxpayer.

Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US' | The Australian

Great! Since we are broke from the war, let's stop spending on all the social programs.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:01 AM
 
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Great! Since we are broke from the war, let's stop spending on all the social programs.
So you agree this is your rightist motto:

""""Save the Muslims- Screw America."
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:01 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Great! Since we are broke from the war, let's stop spending on all the social programs.


Let's start with Bush/Cheney pensions, surely too SOCIALIST for them to accept anyway.
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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SIX YEARS?

What about the projected costs of healthcare for those wounded in Iraq? Many who will require care for LIFE? THAT's a direct cost of the war and MUST be included. Or would you prefer we just sweep that under the rug? Or deny them the care they deserve?
I thought the gist of the article cited by the OP was that the wars have already cost in excess of 3 trillion dollars and that is partly to blame for the implosion of the world financial system last year. Are you now blaming future costs for the meltdown? On what basis?
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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Let's start with Bush/Cheney pensions, surely too SOCIALIST for them to accept anyway.
I agree. That's a good place to start. But let's not stop there. I propose ending all pensions for those currently serving in Congress. Then we'll see how many choose to make a career out of managing people's lives.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Desperation? No, it's a good example of typical NeoConfused hypocrisy. They have no problem with wars of choice with no benefit to Americans yet run screaming SOCIALISM! SOCIALISM! when mere mention is made of the government buying a BandAid for an American.

If a war is wrong, whether it cost $1.00 or trillion$, it's STILL wrong.

If making healthcare available to all is right, and many believe it is, then we find a way to do it.
PRECISELY my point !!!

HYPOCRISY at its finest!

When Republicans choose to spend TRILLIONS ... and BANKRUPT AMERICA with a WAR OF CHOICE ... they have no problem with it.

They simply joined in LOCK STEP and WENT ALONG with whatever Bush told them.

However ... when a Democrat President tries to solve our nation's health care problems ... something which will ACTUALLY BENEFIT AMERICANS ... the Republicans CRY ABOUT THE COSTS !!!

Suddenly A TRILLION DOLLARS sounds like a LOT OF MONEY to them!

Suddenly they are worried about the NATIONAL DEBT and how the grandchildren will be stuck with the bill.

As I stated ... HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST !!!
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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America is still waiting for the Iraqis to throw flowers...as Dick Cheneny said they would.
And don't forget, war is fun.
you forgot to mention the candy that was supposed to go along with those flowers. Funny, but the only thing that I can remember being thrown in Iraq was a shoe.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Here
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When Republicans choose to spend TRILLIONS ... and BANKRUPT AMERICA with a WAR OF CHOICE ... they have no problem with it.
Sounds to me like you agree we don't have the money to implement the proposed HC plan.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:13 PM
 
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Let's start with Bush/Cheney pensions, surely too SOCIALIST for them to accept anyway.
Cheney's state of the art pacemaker is also a Socialist paid for device.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Default The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More

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$3 trillion - hogwash and nonsense.
I guess you know more than these guys?

The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More - washingtonpost.com

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The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More

Some people will scoff at that number, but we've done the math. Senior Bush administration aides certainly pooh-poohed worrisome estimates in the run-up to the war. Former White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey reckoned that the conflict would cost $100 billion to $200 billion; Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld later called his estimate "baloney." Administration officials insisted that the costs would be more like $50 billion to $60 billion.
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Why doesn't the public understand the staggering scale of our expenditures? In part because the administration talks only about the upfront costs, which are mostly handled by emergency appropriations. (Iraq funding is apparently still an emergency five years after the war began.) These costs, by our calculations, are now running at $12 billion a month -- $16 billion if you include Afghanistan. By the time you add in the costs hidden in the defense budget, the money we'll have to spend to help future veterans, and money to refurbish a military whose equipment and materiel have been greatly depleted, the total tab to the federal government will almost surely exceed $1.5 trillion.
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