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Old 09-17-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson View Post
Cost of doing business isn't what I am talking about. I am talking about take-home pay. Sure there are going to be expenses, including equipment, rent, office expenses, operating expenses. I'm talking about how much the doctor has to spend on those pricey European vacations and expensive cars.

20yrsinBranson
Oh I see, other americans should be able to have european vacations (which include poor people cause I seen them over there)... and expensive cars (weird enough also included poor people, don't ask me how they afford it)... except doctors? Somebody here has a deep-seated hatred against doctors...
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You ever compare your Doctor to your Mechanic?
DR.
College degree
High pay
Models never change
If he screws up you die and pay for it
Leaves early to golf,you set in a waiting room for hrs .
Sees you on the road and puts his nose up .
Mechanic
College degree
Not so much
Something new every yr
If he screws up you ***** and don't pay
Works late and Staurdays untill your happy
More then likely will have a beer with you
I don't think my doctor would put his/her nose in the air if she saw me on the road. I know she wouldn't and I know she isn't on the golf course when I am waiting to see her.
Nita

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Old 09-18-2009, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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When two guys in a car accident come in bleeding on stretchers and one has insurance and one doesnt...who do they treat first and who gets better treatment?
If there was uniform health care would it matter?
thats the point.
doctors deserve to get paid, but at what cost to the public?
should money be the deciding factor in wether someone gets help or not?
gets better treatment or not?
or is that selfish and greedy?
how can we carelessly put a price on human life like that and still pretend to care?
Doctors who are in it for the money have forgotten why we need doctors.
to help people...bottom line.
I dont care if my doctor drives a mercedes or a nissan.
as long as I get fixed.
Where did you get the idea if 2 people come in to emergancy, both from accidents the one with insurance gets treated better? That is such a misconception.

Nita
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Well be prepared to pay more at the doctor but you're on Medicare right? so it doesn't really effect you. You're not in the free market.
Where do you get these stupid ideas we do not pay when we see a doctor? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard..Would you like to pay the medical bills we have in the past month or so? People on medicare pay as well as you do, plus we pay $100 a month for medicare and we pay for perscriptions, just not as much.

Do your homework before you stout off.

Nita
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:05 AM
 
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I just started PA school and here's what I'd like.

Enough money for a medium sized house in a safe area and to feed/clothe/educate a family of four (two kids), pay off the 100K in student loans I have to take out, and maybe throw in 5K a year for relaxation. I don't want a lot of money if it means people won't be able to get help from me, and a lot of my classmates are in the same position, we want to be accessible.

It is frustrating though to go through the schooling that we go through (Docs, PAs, NPs), and compared to the business people I know, get paid a lot less for the effort.

You really want to reward me for the time and effort of my medical education and the debt I go into? Take away the management beauracracy that I'm learning about how to deal with right now. Do that some tort reform. I'd rather not have management complaining or frivilous lawsuits than a fat paycheck.

Here's another thought, if you want doctors to demand less for salaries, lessen their debt. Make medical school cheaper if students maintain a 3.3 GPA for example.
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I'm sure doctors from other countries will gladly come to the United States to work for less, which will be more for them, just as they have done in Britain; don't expect to understand them very well of course and who knows how they got their license to practice medicine.

Somehow, I don't think there will be many pre-med students wanting to devote half their working life to school and internship before they can practice if they will be working for a fixed amount. I wonder if they will still be sued for malpractice on top of that?

They might be willing if the cost of medical school is greatly reduced, or free, and the fixed amount is at a point where the time investment is justified, and the whole malpractice issue is fixed.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:04 AM
 
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I was wondering what the public thinks a physician should make per year. This is not loaded by any means and was just curious. Let's generally break up primary care and specialists, with a specialist being a cardiologist or neurosurgeon. Keep in mind that there is 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and three to nine years of additional training after med school for residency and fellowships. Also the work week is 60-90 hours a week, depending on call sharing and clinic hours. Most of the "no call" docs have 50 hours a week baseline time in the easy jobs.


Any thoughts? Obviously, ZERO is not a reasonable response.

Primary care?


Specialist?



I will check it out tonight- took the day off to watch high school golf. That is my first day off in 6 months.
If it causes this much bitterness and suffering even now, years after graduation, it would be better for everyone, especially the patients, if chronically resentful doctors just cut their losses now and moved over into hospital administration, or building hospitals, or something that pays a lot better and has better hours -- and you dont even have to touch sick people
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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As much as people and insurance companies are willing to pay for their services.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Where do you get these stupid ideas we do not pay when we see a doctor? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard..Would you like to pay the medical bills we have in the past month or so? People on medicare pay as well as you do, plus we pay $100 a month for medicare and we pay for perscriptions, just not as much.

Do your homework before you stout off.

Nita
Stout off?

I have my own medical bills to pay and I don't want them to grow any larger by someone thinking doctors should be paid more than they're already paid.
I think the only areas of medicine that deserve more pay are geriatrics and family medicine.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Somebody here has a deep-seated hatred against doctors...

You better believe it.

20yrsinBranson
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