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Old 09-22-2009, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The Associated Press: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

"Congress' chief budget officer is contradicting President Barack Obama's oft-stated claim that seniors wouldn't see their Medicare benefits cut under a health care overhaul.
The head of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, told senators Tuesday that seniors in Medicare's managed care plans would see reduced benefits under a bill in the Finance Committee."
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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The Associated Press: Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs

"Congress' chief budget officer is contradicting President Barack Obama's oft-stated claim that seniors wouldn't see their Medicare benefits cut under a health care overhaul.
The head of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, told senators Tuesday that seniors in Medicare's managed care plans would see reduced benefits under a bill in the Finance Committee."
Didn't the Gov just get done hushing insurance companies up about this?

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The warning came after Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., launched an investigation of Humana Inc. Humana is one of the largest private insurers participating in a program called Medicare Advantage. Federal subsidies to private Medicare plans average about 14 percent higher than those involved in traditional fee-for-service Medicare coverage. The health care bills pending in Congress would reduce or eliminate the difference.
GOP raps Dems for hushing insurers on Medicare - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090922/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_medicare - broken link)
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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Didn't the Gov just get done hushing insurance companies up about this?

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GOP raps Dems for hushing insurers on Medicare - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090922/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_medicare - broken link)

LOLs. Government in action.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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What Elmendorf apparently refers to is language in the Baucus bill that will act to curtail the current insurance company practice of billing Medicare Advantage up to 150% of what is charged for the same drugs provided to a patient under plain old Medicare. This is simply theft by the insurance companies that contrbutes nothing to anyone'e health. In the sense that payments would fall from $150 back toward $100, seniors may "lose benefits" under Medicare Advantage. But they would still be getting the same drugs for the same or lower out-of-pocket cost.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:56 PM
 
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What Elmendorf apparently refers to is language in the Baucus bill that will act to curtail the current insurance company practice of billing Medicare Advantage up to 150% of what is charged for the same drugs provided to a patient under plain old Medicare. This is simply theft by the insurance companies that contrbutes nothing to anyone'e health. In the sense that payments would fall from $150 back toward $100, seniors may "lose benefits" udner Medicare Advantage. But they would still be getting the same drugs for the same or lower out-of-pocket cost.

They could fix that with a one paragraph long bill. No need for these 1000 page bills with amendments out the ying yang.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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What Elmendorf apparently refers to is language in the Baucus bill that will act to curtail the current insurance company practice of billing Medicare Advantage up to 150% of what is charged for the same drugs provided to a patient under plain old Medicare. This is simply theft by the insurance companies that contrbutes nothing to anyone'e health. In the sense that payments would fall from $150 back toward $100, seniors may "lose benefits" under Medicare Advantage. But they would still be getting the same drugs for the same or lower out-of-pocket cost.

If he had meant that he would have said that. He said a reduction in benefits, he didn't say a reduction in reinbursement to insurance companies.

Anyway this really what Medicare advantage is.

Medicare.gov - Medicare Advantage Plans
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