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Old 10-06-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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You Can't Say That
At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
by Anne Bayefsky
10/05/2009 12:00:00 AM

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The newly-minted American policy was rolled out at the latest session of the UN Human Rights Council
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The EU also distanced itself from the American compromise on the media, declaring that "the notion of a moral and social responsibility of the media" goes "well beyond" existing international law and "the EU cannot subscribe to this concept in such general terms."
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In 1992 when the United States ratified the main international law treaty which addresses freedom of expression, the government carefully attached reservations to ensure that the treaty could not "restrict the right of free speech and association protected by the Constitution and laws of the United States."
Obama will be remembered as the most disastrous head of state in the Americas since Montezuma
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:45 AM
 
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Of course he does. Why should it surprise us that someone who loses sleep at night because of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity would find it concionable to suppress freedom of expression? I, for one, am not surprised.
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:47 AM
 
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Obama is consistent in this regard.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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And now the FTC steps in to regulate product endorsements, not just in advertisements but also on blogs.

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...the FTC assumes – as media people do – that the internet is a medium. It’s not. It’s a place where people talk. Most people who blog, as Pew found in a survey a few years ago, don’t think they are doing anything remotely connected to journalism.

Can expression in forums be far behind?
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Unfricken believable! It begs the question, WTF was Obama thinking?!

I'm for making consessions to get along with others in the global community. However, I do not support caving in and throwing out any rights declared in the Bill of Rights, or anything that opposes our Constitution. Is there nothing that is too great a price to pay in order to be embraced by the Islamic countries? Where does it stop ... or, doesn't it?

So what's next? Sharia law? Shall our women don burkas? Will traditional religions be tossed out too and all places of worship be declared Mosques? Will husbands and Fathers be required to have their women folk circumcised?

If all of this sounds extreme, it's because it is extreme. I spent 2 tours of duty in Iraq. I've seen what goes on there. There's no way I'd ever support that kind of oppression in this country.

Military men and women take an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and to defend the country against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. If anyone thinks for a moment that eliminating our freedoms and circumventing the US Constitution will be taken lightly by Americans, they have greatly underestimated the American people.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You Can't Say That
At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
by Anne Bayefsky
10/05/2009 12:00:00 AM

Obama will be remembered as the most disastrous head of state in the Americas since Montezuma
Agreed, the guy is a fascist.

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Of course he does. Why should it surprise us that someone who loses sleep at night because of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity would find it concionable to suppress freedom of expression? I, for one, am not surprised.
It does not surprise me that 0bama would share the views of China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia and other oppressive Islamic states, but it saddens me. 2010 can not come soon enough, but 2012 may come too late.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The concept is un-American, for 0bama to side with these people and allow governments to curtail freedom of speech, there is no other way to say it.

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Pakistan's Ambassador Zamir Akram, speaking on behalf of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, made it clear that they understand the resolution and its protection against religious stereotyping as allowing free speech to be trumped by anything that defames or negatively stereotypes religion. The idea of protecting the human rights "of religions" instead of individuals is a favorite of those countries that do not protect free speech and which use religion--as defined by government--to curtail it.


What protection, fines, penalties or imprisonment, loss of radio, TV, cable, or satellite broadcast license, confiscation of property?
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:38 AM
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Unfricken believable! It begs the question, WTF was Obama thinking?!

I'm for making consessions to get along with others in the global community. However, I do not support caving in and throwing out any rights declared in the Bill of Rights, or anything that opposes our Constitution. Is there nothing that is too great a price to pay in order to be embraced by the Islamic countries? Where does it stop ... or, doesn't it?

So what's next? Sharia law? Shall our women don burkas? Will traditional religions be tossed out too and all places of worship be declared Mosques? Will husbands and Fathers be required to have their women folk circumcised?

If all of this sounds extreme, it's because it is extreme. I spent 2 tours of duty in Iraq. I've seen what goes on there. There's no way I'd ever support that kind of oppression in this country.

Military men and women take an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and to defend the country against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. If anyone thinks for a moment that eliminating our freedoms and circumventing the US Constitution will be taken lightly by Americans, they have greatly underestimated the American people.

I'm with Eddie on this one. The American people will not stand for much more of this.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Agreed, the guy is a fascist.


It does not surprise me that 0bama would share the views of China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia and other oppressive Islamic states, but it saddens me. 2010 can not come soon enough, but 2012 may come too late.
They guy is a commnist. Not a socialist but a Marxist communist and while I knew in November he wouldn't be good for the nation I had no idea he would be this bad.

Was anyone so stupid as to believe he shared any core values with our founding fathers?
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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which include taking action against anything meeting the description of "negative racial and religious stereotyping." It also purports to "recognize . . . the moral and social responsibilities of the media" and supports "the media's elaboration of voluntary codes of professional ethical conduct" in relation to "combating racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance."


About 1 month ago, when the AP printed a photo of a dying Marine (against the family's wishes) I was pissed.

I don't believe I understand the scope of this undertaking.
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