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Old 09-30-2009, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What does this have to do with my point? The racism against these players sucks and is somewhat common at games in Europe. It doesn't mean everyone doing it is a white supremacist, it does mean that they all take football way too seriously.

Again, besides this being an unfortunate instance of racism, how dies it relate to the issue I brought up? It's just a soccer game, what I was talking about was mass immigration.
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Where does this leave us that have pride in our race and don't want to see many white ethnic countries (UK, France, Belgium, etc) to be overrun with people of other races in a few generations? It has nothing to do with hate or feelings of superiority.

The segment wasn't of fans taking soccer too seriously, it was specifically on how the matches had become a place for nazi/skinhead groups to meet on a regular basis....they all sat together. My point was that they showed hatred and these players because they were black...it wasn't about them living in their country.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Over There
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I thought this thread was about how racist white people are.

They hate Obama because he is black! You can tell by the way they disagree with him and stuff. Look at blacks they definitely don't factor the color of your skin into the way they think, all they care about is the content of your character. That's why 95% of them voted for Obama. The 50% of whites that voted for Obama are just trying to throw you off.

Their plan is to put him in office and then embarrass him by pointing out his ineptness and destructive fiscal policy. After that all the whites will spring forth and reinstate slavery.

Sry if I'm assuming this thread is politically motivated but it seems as if I just heard this issue blow up in the media. It seems like the left is trying to use this to make the right feel bad? or to try and paint them as hateful psychos? I don't really know though that's just a guess. It seems like all the media is polarized and everything they talk about is somehow pushing us one way or the other. It is very sickening and I try and not watch it at all. I get most my info from multiple sources over the internet.

Racism is such an interesting issue, don't you think? It boggles my mind the way that people think. My sister says that we should make blacks special citizens so they can "get ahead" in life. Like uber-affirmative action throughout all aspects of American society. Hey and what do ya know she is a super liberal too.
Wow I am not sure what to make of this. I can only hope most of it was meant to be sarcastic.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Over There
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I concede, I just said "white" for simplicity sake. You might also say that East Asia is the homeland of East Asians and that Africa is the homeland of black people, even though both instances have multiple ethnic groups.

I could care less about creating a homeland for "whites" because the continent of Europe is already the homeland of most of the ethnicities that make up the white race.

just replace the word white in my post with whatever ethnicity that is in danger of being a minority in its own country.

I didn't mean to come off snide at all, I hope it did not sound that way.I do understand what you are saying.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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You said:

Where does this leave us that have pride in our race and don't want to see many white ethnic countries (UK, France, Belgium, etc) to be overrun with people of other races in a few generations? It has nothing to do with hate or feelings of superiority.

The segment wasn't of fans taking soccer too seriously, it was specifically on how the matches had become a place for nazi/skinhead groups to meet on a regular basis....they all sat together. My point was that they showed hatred and these players because they were black...it wasn't about them living in their country.
Ok, fair enough. But I never denied the existence of racists, only stated that I was in an undefined area between the liberal multiculturalists and the 3rd Reich.

Really my point was that despite popular opinion someone can care about the survival of his own ethnic group and still not be racist. You don't have to believe me but I have close friends that are from around the world.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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I didn't mean to come off snide at all, I hope it did not sound that way.I do understand what you are saying.
No you had a good point. It really is about ethnic group not race since race is such a contrived idea. After all, most people think of white people as only Europeans and most North Americans but the reality is that many Semitic people could be considered white (Jews, Arabs), a ton of Latinos are white, and there is the Indo-European Aryan link as well.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Ok, fair enough. But I never denied the existence of racists, only stated that I was in an undefined area between the liberal multiculturalists and the 3rd Reich.

Really my point was that despite popular opinion someone can care about the survival of his own ethnic group and still not be racist. You don't have to believe me but I have close friends that are from around the world.

What ethnic group do you come from? What makes you worried about its survival?
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:28 AM
 
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I dont understand why folks get so obsessed with race.... "white pride", people feel really threatened. Why? Who cares whether which people can or cant be considered white? I just dont get it. There was a real need for the "black pride" movement, for black Americans to make a place for themselves at the table, assert themselves as valuable and equal, they truly *had* been oppressed as we all know. Affirmative action based on race was necessary but it's not anymore and it's on the way out. But the "white pride" business I dont understand. White people are not oppressed.

And the rewriting of history by these bigots -- excuse me, "racialists" -- is really sinister. And it's always the same way -- the whites were and are the real victims all along. Big attraction in that group, wanting to play victim.

Just nuts if you ask me.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I dont understand why folks get so obsessed with race.... "white pride", people feel really threatened. Why? Who cares whether which people can or cant be considered white? I just dont get it. There was a real need for the "black pride" movement, for black Americans to make a place for themselves at the table, assert themselves as valuable and equal, they truly *had* been oppressed as we all know. Affirmative action based on race was necessary but it's not anymore and it's on the way out. But the "white pride" business I dont understand. White people are not oppressed.
If there's any race that should be worried about their continued cultural existance it would be the native American race.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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If there's any race that should be worried about their continued cultural existance it would be the native American race.
Ah, but they sent their kids to law school and they're all getting rich now!
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ah, but they sent their kids to law school and they're all getting rich now!
Some of what you say is true to a point but in the process, the culture is being destroyed. It is a shame that the only way the tribes can get ahead is though gambling, a human weakness. Unemployment is rampant, reservation life is appalling and the children are moving away and leaving their culture behind. Many tribal rituals are only performed for tourists, for a fee. Alcoholism is epidemic. Not blaming anyone in particular, just stating the facts.

But I hijack the thread. This thread is about the plight of the white race and how to maintain racial purity in a melting pot society.
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