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Old 09-30-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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Finally someone is writting about something that has been out there for a while. It seems the Authority on AGW who came up with the data sets that started us down this path have either distroyed the data or are lying about where it is....

one wonders why


"Steel yourself for the new reality, because the data needed to verify the gloom-and-doom warming forecasts have disappeared.

Or so it seems. Apparently, they were either lost or purged from some discarded computer. Only a very few people know what really happened, and they aren’t talking much. And what little they are saying makes no sense."


The Dog Ate Global Warming by Patrick J. Michaels on National Review Online==
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Finally someone is writting about something that has been out there for a while. It seems the Authority on AGW who came up with the data sets that started us down this path have either distroyed the data or are lying about where it is....

one wonders why


"Steel yourself for the new reality, because the data needed to verify the gloom-and-doom warming forecasts have disappeared.

Or so it seems. Apparently, they were either lost or purged from some discarded computer. Only a very few people know what really happened, and they aren’t talking much. And what little they are saying makes no sense."


The Dog Ate Global Warming by Patrick J. Michaels on National Review Online==
Yeah like I believe for one second that they don't have backup copies of this ever so important data. Something bigger is going on here, like a big fat lie!
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: southern california
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america hard right has found a cost effective way to deal with global warming, denial.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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Very interesting....
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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LOL Now that Pat has been kick out of the University of Virginia, not exactly a hotbed of liberalism, and has found his work no longer acceptable in the professional peer review environment, we find him at CATO writing more shrill editorials. He's a sad case.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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LOL Now that Pat has been kick out of the University of Virginia, not exactly a hotbed of liberalism, and has found his work no longer acceptable in the professional peer review environment, we find him at CATO writing more shrill editorials. He's a sad case.
Ahhh...you couldn't even debate the facts of the article, just attack the messenger. You can't take being wrong can you?
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Ahhh...you couldn't even debate the facts of the article, just attack the messenger. You can't take being wrong can you?
There are no facts. It's a editorial from a guy who denies climate change. Even if his assertions are true, and Michaels has a very poor record for integrity, the data sets are irrelevant to today's discussion. The climate change community moved to more sophisticated temperature estimates years ago.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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america hard right has found a cost effective way to deal with global warming, denial.
LOL! the problem with your post is, that it is the believers in AGW that are denying the existance of their own data.

Are you suggesting that the rest of us should simply believe in AGW because someone said it is real sans any evidence?


It is important to understand that the data that is lost is the bases of ALL of the major works suggesting an abberant warming since 1979.

it boggles the mind that you would suggest denial from teh "right" when the "left" cant produce the data.

YOU certainly would not believe a blessed thing said by someone on the "right" without acutal data.

By the way, there is no "Left and right" in science. There is ONLY DATA and imperical evidence.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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There are no facts. It's a editorial from a guy who denies climate change. Even if his assertions are true, and Michaels has a very poor record for integrity, the data sets are irrelevant to today's discussion. The climate change community moved to more sophisticated temperature estimates years ago.
you are so wrong... If there is no data to support their theory, there is no theory. That's the way science works, you just don't come up with something off the top of your head without any scientific data at all and call it a theory, and supposedly the oracle of all theories at that.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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LOL Now that Pat has been kick out of the University of Virginia, not exactly a hotbed of liberalism, and has found his work no longer acceptable in the professional peer review environment, we find him at CATO writing more shrill editorials. He's a sad case.
here we go again.

Peer review (Code word for reviewd by fellows who agree with AGW)


Never the less, RLC, would you like to refute the fact that Jones and company have LOST their data sets?

the bases of all the work that claims AGW?
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