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Old 10-18-2009, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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So what does that mean? It means nothing because it still can and most likely will happen.
It means Obama can't sign anything over to anyone.

It means we once again have an incorrect thread title aimed at rousing the rabble against Obama.
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:48 AM
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It means Obama can't sign anything over to anyone.

It means we once again have an incorrect thread title aimed at rousing the rabble against Obama.
No, open your eyes. The bigger picture here is we have a President who is willing to sell out America to this nonsense, we'll see what kind of tactics they use to pass this.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:08 PM
 
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I totally believe he would do it if he could , but I don't think it would be that easy, and if it were than they would just have to kill be, because I would never obey such a government.
I agree the whole Oboma administration must be stopped as long term we are surly headed that direction.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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We need to find out more about this.
No we don't; it's nonsense.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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No we don't; it's nonsense.

The President can unilaterally sign a de facto treaty by Executive Order. FACT.

In the United States, the term "treaty" has a different, more restricted legal sense than exists in international law. U.S. law distinguishes what it calls treaties from treaty executive agreements, congressional-executive agreements, and sole executive agreements. All four classes are equally treaties under international law; they are distinct only from the perspective of internal American law. The distinctions are primarily concerning their method of ratification. Whereas treaties require advice and consent by two-thirds of the Senate, sole executive agreements may be executed by the President acting alone. Some treaties grant the President the authority to fill in the gaps with executive agreements, rather than additional treaties or protocols. And finally, Congressional executive agreements require majority approval by both the House and the Senate, either before or after the treaty is signed by the President.
Currently, international agreements are executed by executive agreement rather than treaties at a rate of 10:1. Despite the relative ease of executive agreements, the President still often chooses to pursue the formal treaty process over an executive agreement in order to gain Congressional support on matters that require the Congress to pass implementing legislation or appropriate funds, and those agreements that impose long-term, complex legal obligations on the U.S.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The President can unilaterally sign a de facto treaty by Executive Order. FACT.
I didn't mean the treaty signing part of it, I menat that he was going to sign this particular treaty. The OP is tinfoil hat stuff.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:59 PM
 
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I didn't mean the treaty signing part of it, I menat that he was going to sign this particular treaty. The OP is tinfoil hat stuff.

I can't comment on that. He might be; I have not read up on the issue. If Obama chooses to sign it, depending on the type of treaty he might be able to. That is my point. It does not always take 2/3 of the Senate.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't want to waste 4 min. of my life watching this video (honestly, I just don't get the video thing on this board), but if you look at the thread title, it's a little far-fetched.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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Obama=Communist=Domestic Enemy of the US Constitution=Treason=I concur
Oh the drama. I enjoy it though. Thanks.

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I don't want to waste 4 min. of my life watching this video (honestly, I just don't get the video thing on this board), but if you look at the thread title, it's a little far-fetched.
Oh but of course! Did you expect anything different? They are extreme conservatives posting who hate Obama and exaggerate EVERYTHING he does by 100000 percent.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:15 AM
 
Location: California
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It's amazing how Youtube has made everyone an expert on everything
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