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Have you seen any bill in Congress that would provide lifetime unemployment benefits?
Until I see a bill for this, I'm not worried.
My point was,since jobs won't be coming back and unemployment will be much higher in the future, something will have to be done to change how things are done here.
Why would you be worried if such a bill was in CONgress?
I think it makes sense,the arbitrary way unemployment is handled in this nation is stupid and half-assed,but then so are most of the fedgov's ways of handling things.
My point was,since jobs won't be coming back and unemployment will be much higher in the future, something will have to be done to change how things are done here.
Why would you be worried if such a bill was in CONgress?
I think it makes sense,the arbitrary way unemployment is handled in this nation is stupid and half-assed,but then so are most of the fedgov's ways of handling things.
I'd much rather money be spent to create jobs than unemployment benefits.
Hsnq yes I can understand your frustration but did you ask these people what fields they were applying for? Why do you look at SOME people and think it applies to EVERYONE? You do realize there are lots of unemployed people who spend hours looking for a job? The jobs just aren't there. Even if everyone who is unemployed spent hours upon hours looking...it doesn't guarantee they'll find one. I don't know how much more clear I can make it. The jobs just aren't there.
For some jobs it requires a college degree or an associates degree. It takes time. You can't just expect people to change career fields in a matter of weeks if they don't have the training or experience.
Impose massive fines per illegal alien, the greedy put to work. Mandatory jail time of 5 years or more no probation, with seizure of all assets, on top of that.
Impose high import tariffs and start a second USA industrial revolution.
Just those two things alone, would see unemployment drop to all time lows.
The problem is more the LEGAL aliens taking the high paying jobs, than the ILLEGAL aliens working the throw-away jobs that most Americans shun.
'Fines per illegal alien'? - how do they pay what they don't have? 'Seizure of all assests' - what assets? 'Manditory jail sentences'? - and make the taxpapyer pay billions more each year to house them?
The cheap 'illegal' workers kept many small businesses afloat. The large corporations who dish out thousands good paying jobs to 'onshore' H1B workers who 'manage' cheap 'offshore' workers are the reason for the economy's woes. The good paying jobs can stabilize the country - but Obama doesn't want to do anything about it.
I'd much rather money be spent to create jobs than unemployment benefits.
The Fedgov. cannot create jobs without their being a cost to us.
It can however spend money taken from those working....
Private enterprise creates jobs that actually 'pay' for themselves.
The point I was making is unemployment benefits should not be limited by a time period,because you simply might not get a job in that length of time.
And I believe we are looking at a future where there will be a larger segment of our society who simply will be unemployed...so something will need to change.
Many experts envision a jobless recovery, in which the economy grows but job losses persist. Economists now predict unemployment will peak at 10.5% next June, fall to 9.1% by 2011 but still be at 8.1% in 2013.
Many experts envision a jobless recovery, in which the economy grows but job losses persist. Economists now predict unemployment will peak at 10.5% next June, fall to 9.1% by 2011 but still be at 8.1% in 2013.
Lets take this figure...
So over 8% of the workforce(not the population) will be jobless....
What do people think these folks should do?
Also remember that the figure above is the U-3 unemployment rate,the U-6 rate almost double.
1. greatly lower/elliminate the corporate tax (we are currently the 2nd highest in the world)
2. Impose high import tarrifs....to include on companies that are HQ'd here in the usa, but make ther product outside (like G.E. , hq'd in Connecticut, but everything is assembeed/made in mexico/malasia)
do those 2 things (ie revoke NAFTA and its siblings) and JOB will come to the USA, and we wont be stuck with everything beoing made overseas (I think ist DISGUSTING that even american flags are made in china)
I'd much rather money be spent to create jobs than unemployment benefits.
Hsnq yes I can understand your frustration but did you ask these people what fields they were applying for? Why do you look at SOME people and think it applies to EVERYONE? You do realize there are lots of unemployed people who spend hours looking for a job? The jobs just aren't there. Even if everyone who is unemployed spent hours upon hours looking...it doesn't guarantee they'll find one. I don't know how much more clear I can make it. The jobs just aren't there.
For some jobs it requires a college degree or an associates degree. It takes time. You can't just expect people to change career fields in a matter of weeks if they don't have the training or experience.
I understand completely what you are saying, and I do sympathize. I guess I can't help but wonder how they got to such dire positions, and the only answer I can think of is poor planning. Why weren't they following their companies performance/financials to see when it would do poorly? Why weren't they getting education continually instead of waiting for times to get tough to think about it? Why would they get a liberal arts degree and then complain about student loans being unresonable? I guess (whether it is fair or not) I see the vast majority of people who are struggling as people who simply did not plan correctly, and I do not want to be punished through taxes for their poor planning. Is my view selfish? Yes it is. Is it justified? Absolutely.
I understand completely what you are saying, and I do sympathize. I guess I can't help but wonder how they got to such dire positions, and the only answer I can think of is poor planning. Why weren't they following their companies performance/financials to see when it would do poorly? Why weren't they getting education continually instead of waiting for times to get tough to think about it? Why would they get a liberal arts degree and then complain about student loans being unresonable? I guess (whether it is fair or not) I see the vast majority of people who are struggling as people who simply did not plan correctly, and I do not want to be punished through taxes for their poor planning. Is my view selfish? Yes it is. Is it justified? Absolutely.
To some extent, I can see where you're coming from. I truly can.
At the same time, you can't expect all human beings to perform rationally. That's a huge reason we're in the mess we are now. Banks investing in bad loans, people taking huge risks, etc.
Sometimes the companies pull the rug out from people. People thought it was smooth sailing. Sometimes numbers are fudged in the books. It happens. C'est la vie.
Many experts envision a jobless recovery, in which the economy grows but job losses persist. Economists now predict unemployment will peak at 10.5% next June, fall to 9.1% by 2011 but still be at 8.1% in 2013.
The 'experts' didn't even see this whole thing coming, and now they are saying there's a recovery - jobless no less? This is a consumer-credit-driven economy, and when people have no jobs, they can't spend. No jobs, no spending, no credit... everything dries up.
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